Nasal Strips

Started by Frost King, May 17, 2014, 08:01:07 PM

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magicnight

Agree, Paul. Can\'t imagine they would call his bluff here, over that.

joemama

Your probably right .  In this day and age where laws are for everyone else except lawmakers, where the laws that are enforced are, at the enforcers choice, I can see that happening.  Just ask for permission.  \"You can get anything you want at Alices Restaurant.\"

smalltimer

Mike, we both know the rule can go away if they want it to. I don\'t recall horses having been \"harmed\" by wearing one, rather, maybe using one and finding the horse showed no improvement in performance.  

The worst scenario is Chrome skips the Belmont, and then a horse he defeated in the first two legs comes back and wins the race without the Derby/Preakness champion there.

Would be additional fodder for the horse owner who put Churchill in a poor light because of shoddy treatment.

It appears one of the owners had mapped out a plan for Chrome\'s 3 year old campaign and thus far it has been a perfect plan. I imagine his plan included Chrome wearing the nasal strip and I don\'t think that owner is going to change.  
Have a good one.

TGJB

This raises some serious questions. Like, if it doesn\'t help, why is it an issue? If it does help, why isn\'t the public made aware when they go on and off? Did he really start wearing it when he made the big jump?

If they have refused to let horses wear them in the past and do now, they might as well stop regulating this game entirely.
TGJB

miff

Supposed to help reduce the possibility of bleeding.Just like uniformity with other stuff they are working on, ban it everywhere or allow it everywhere.
miff

joemama

THere already has been a precedence set regarding the nasal strip with I\'ll have Another being required to wear one.  So because it\'s 2014 and not 2012 it\'s ok.

dcost328

by Shermans own admission it makes his horse 5-6 lengths better when wearing it.

if something, some piece of equipment can have this dramatic of an impact, why is it not listed just the same way lasix is?

joemama

It\'s the same as these throat surgeries they do to the horse , then the horse runs light out at 50 to 1 next time out.  The general betting public has no idea the surgery took place.  Same goes for first time gelding a horse.

richiebee

...same goes for when they change the type of blinkers a horse is wearing, the
type of bit in a horse\'s mouth or the type of bridle he is wearing, all changes
which can move a horse up, all changes probably 95% of horseplayers are unaware of...

miff

Why should the game be transparent, we only bet $10 billion between us!
miff

smalltimer

joe,
The gelding thing is one of the reasons I included Ring Weekend on the bottom of several of my supers.  He was gelded prior to this 3 year old year, once that turf race was over, he started to look like a real racehorse.  I knew he wouldn\'t get the trip he had at Tampa Bay, and Garcia said the horse hated the Calder surface, so I tossed that race.
I have a lot of respect for Graham Motion and I figured he thought Ring had a \"chance\" to run fairly big at Pimlico.  I thought the horse ran well even though he\'s not ready now, or probably never, to beat Chrome and a couple others.
In some lesser company, if he gets on the front end and gets to carve out some fractions, he\'s gonna be a handful.  
Pretty talented horse and a very talented trainer.  Love that combination.

smalltimer

Richie,
Its just like the TSD\'s on the Florida/Ohio/Nebraska circuit as well as a couple others.
That equipment change (Cornell Collar) is denoted on the bottom of the daily programs.  I don\'t buy the DRF so I don\'t know if they do or don\'t denote that for the player.  
That\'s a reason some of the trainers on that Florida circuit continue to light up the board.  Some dudes try with the horse first time, others adjust it properly for the second run, some wait till the 3rd out and then roll.  
Some horses respond, others are just slow horses.  Some trainers have used it with zero success, others have made a small fortune.
Only way you play their intent is by paying close attention, or in my case I\'ve developed spreadsheets since they began to allow it and the same cast of characters keep using the same patterns.
Information like that needs to be readily available to the public, period.  
In the right hands, that is a helluva performance enhancer.

Acesover

this could get fun


Martin and his family did not attend the Preakness. Co-owner Steve Coburn said it was because the Martin was upset with the hospitality in Kentucky during the Derby weekend.

\"I want to tell you something. It would be very questionable that he (Martin) could say, \'Hey, I don\'t understand why they won\'t let me run (in New York). Maybe they don\'t want us there.\' \"

Added Sherman, \"That might be a little interesting if Perry Martin says, \'Well, if I can\'t go, I guess I\'ll go to the Los Alamitos Derby (in July in California). .... Orange County might be a little overcrowded that day.\"

sekrah

The more info that is public, the more people would be on races.  The people running this sport really are inept and clueless.

richiebee

What is the modestly bred CC\'s value as a stallion?

Is CC\'s value as a stallion significantly enhanced if he wins the Triple Crown,
or diminished if he loses at Belmont?

As a racing fan, I would have no problem with the owners saying \"Our colt is
tired, we will be skipping the Belmont and laying him up for a while, see you at
SA in November.\"