Hey Vito

[TGJB]

I got an idea.

I\'m sure The Pletcher filly looked just as good on Jake, I\'m just reading them wrong. You know what would solve this problem? Putting up Lens seminar, in fact all of them, after the fact, for free. Putting all the sheets for past TC races and BCs where anyone can look at them, and the numbers they ran, for free. Putting up all yesterday\'s data up for review, free, every day. It would be a show of confidence. I mean, there\'s nothing to hide, right?

So why don\'t you request they do that. Publicly. If the reason they don\'t is technological, I got a guy that can help them. They know him, used to work for them. They fired him.

[baron1970]

Pletcher horse was the second fastest in the racing on all data. I use your figs and my buddy uses Rags. I\'m interested to see how Chitsu runs. I\'m sure you\'ve seen the figs!

[TGJB]

She was absolutely NOT second fastest on \"Rags\". Not even close. Four fillies two or more points faster, by memory.

[miff]

Rags had My Miss Sophia 11-9-11 or expressed in TG like 7.5 5.5 7.5...you gotta drink lots of Kool Aid to think those figs were reflective of performance.

In Beyer terms,going in, they were 79 85 79

Brilliant!!

[baron1970]

Yup, brilliant! I used Thoro he used rags we cashed the race quite well!

[jimbo66]

Baron,

You are contending for dumbest post of the month, albeit we are only on May 2nd, if you are suggesting that somebody saw that Rags line and figured \"use\" the horse.

Post that somewhere where the aggregate audience is lots dumber.

[TreadHead]

Might try PaceAdvantage, where there is currently a thread comparing California Chrome to Big Brown and Barbaro

[FrankD.]

ONLY 77 days to the years first Mensa meeting. Saturday July 19th the first TG seminar at The SPA !!!!!!

Our host was not the only one with a single in the Churchill 8th today; my only consolation is I know Richiebee has drunk more than I have since the Oaks!!!!!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR,

Frank D.

[Ritis]

How did Will a Take Charge look on thoro on the SHEETS he was a big bet against.

[TGJB]

I did the analysis for CD today, you can check both that and the data the next day, every day, in the Red Board Room here.

I said to play against WTC, boxing the horses that ran 1-2-4.

Re Eric\'s comment on the other board about the Oaks being unplayable, check out the seminar now or analysis tomorrow. I gave out the 5 horses that ran 1-5 pretty much in order in the seminar, hit the high 5 on a 5 horse box and multiple times by pressing Untap on top. Check it out yourself.

[Chitownturf]

Really? You\'re crowing about picking a 4-5 shot that everyone had and a $21 exacta-- BTW, Sophia had one of the nicer lines in the race on Ragozin? Esp When your usual 5 horse \"ROTW\" key doesn\'t even typically hit the board?
I give you credit for trying to bring figures into the 21st century-- the fact that  rag players have to BEG for most euro numbers is preposterous for example--and you do a solid job w your numbers. But this constant railing about your competition is really distasteful. If your product is better, people will gravitate to it. It isn\'t like Ragozin knows how to promote their product and that\'s why people stay with them. Some of us just feel their numbers are more accurate. I crushed today using Ragozin. Maybe they were the same races you did, maybe they weren\'t. So what. Doesn\'t mean either product is superior. This game isn\'t just about the numbers and it certainly isn\'t usually just about which horse is the fastest. It\'s about understanding value and patterns. I guarantee you that people using your product will key at least 10-12 different horses in the derby; same with Ragozin. Both of Your producs are just tools. Some people are better at using them than others. Constantly railing about their product just makes you look like a jilted lover. Get over it, you\'ve made it dude.

[TGJB]

I got tired just reading that. Watch the seminar, read the analysis, see if I just gave out a $21 exacta (or any exacta), read the post I made IN ADVANCE pointing out they had her too slow, yada yada yada, good night.