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[sekrah]

Zenyatta.. The most overrated animal this generation (and likely any future generations) will ever see.

[HP]

I respectfully disagree.  The most overrated animal I\'ve ever seen - Lassie.  

Lassie went to school with the kids and then found her way back home.  It was like a few blocks away!  Come on.  Dogs find their way home across hundreds of miles.  I have a dog and she is learning how to drive.  So the most overrated animal is definitely Lassie and not Zenyatta.  Not even close.    

HP

[sighthound]

Timeforms were not created for American horses at that time.  I merely posted them as reference for how that system rates different horses you may be familiar with.

[P-Dub]

sekrah Wrote:
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> Zenyatta.. The most overrated animal this
> generation (and likely any future generations)
> will ever see.


Geezus, 18 months later and you still can\'t let it go.

Just give it a rest already.

[plasticman]

Doesnt it actually take ONE person to \'rate her highly\' for her to be \'overrated;? There are so many people bashing Z and saying that she\'s overrated, that she actually becomes UNDERRATED because of all the bashing. That\'s how the rating system works.

In order to be overrated you actually have to have enough people think you\'re great....in Z\'s case, there are plenty of people who think she\'s not that good (for whatever reason) which means she can\'t really be overrated.

The people who show up at Hollywood with the signs and face paint arent \'rating\' her. They love her as a \"human\" and arent in the \'rating\' business. Z gets \'rated\' by people like yourself and other \'pundits\' on message boards and the overwhelming sentiment is that she\'s \'not as good as people say\'.

Problem is, there are just as many people who are saying she\'s not that good as there are people who are saying she IS good/great.

To me, its a wash and she\'s either rated \'correctly\' or, she\'s underrated. No way she\'s overrated according to my math.

[moosepalm]

HP Wrote:
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> I respectfully disagree.  The most overrated
> animal I\'ve ever seen - Lassie.  
>
> Lassie went to school with the kids and then found
> her way back home.  It was like a few blocks away!
>  Come on.  Dogs find their way home across
> hundreds of miles.  I have a dog and she is
> learning how to drive.  So the most overrated
> animal is definitely Lassie and not Zenyatta.  Not
> even close.    
>
>

I really don\'t know how you can distinguish Lassie from Rin Tin Tin.  Clearly we are parsing fine lines of overrated here.  It reminds me of the scene from \"Manhattan,\" when the Diane Keaton and Michael Murphy characters were talking about their \"Academy of Overrated\" which included Mahler, Lenny Bruce, Jung and F. Scott Fitzgerald.  To that list, we can add Lassie, Rin Tin Tin and Zenyatta.  Lack of objective standards appears to be no barrier to such claims.  It\'s similar to Justice Stewart\'s famous quote on \"pornography\" -- he knows it when he sees it.

[BB]

Speaking of pornography, I\'ve seen some things that were supposedly \"XXX\" and they were definitely overrated.

[moosepalm]

BB Wrote:
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> Speaking of pornography, I\'ve seen some things
> that were supposedly \"XXX\" and they were
> definitely overrated.

By one \"X\" or two?

[BB]

Two. As with sheet nomenclature, I would have rated it an \"X\", a non-effort.

[HP]

Yes I know this is a handicapping board so last shot...

On top of being overrated, Lassie ALSO a union thug.  Screen Actors Guild.  Constantly demanding more beef to get on the set.  

HP

[Boscar Obarra]

Rick B. Wrote:
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> How far back do TG numbers go, anyway?


 I think there might be figs for Rome\'s chariot events starting around 500 BC, but they wouldn\'t be in the computer, papyrus only.

[BB]

Right you are, HP, so I\'ll sign off with this one. I wanted pretty much the same thing that Lassie did, only, rather than beef, more cheese on the set.

[BB]

1982, Rick. Check the Derby part of the archives.

[sekrah]

I\'m talking in terms of how the media was promoting her as the greatest thing to ever exist in horse racing.

There\'s non-horse racing people who know who Zenyatta is from the endless stupid stories done on the network news and ESPN.   Probably 0% of them know who Ghostzapper or Cigar were.

[Rich Curtis]

BB wrote:

\"As with sheet nomenclature, I would have rated it an \'X,\' a non-effort.\"

  What amazes me is that those guys don\'t get more \"quit\" numbers.