Given the likely odds, the only East Coast horse that intrigues me

[HP]

Ill - the no break through is a negative to me.  A great horse comes back after four months and hasn\'t improved a lick.  Is that right?  Not even a half point better?  

Barbaro had a nice forward looking line coming in, gradual increments, nice spacing, nothing like UR at all.  And you shouldn\'t be cryptic, you can come right out and say who you like, your comments will probably not tilt the odds on Derby Day.  There\'s enough money in the pools.  

You can talk about \"aiming for the Derby\" all day, and maybe it will work, but I\'m skeptical.  The idea that the trainer is somehow keeping the horse in a holding pattern up to the Derby when he\'ll finally explode...I\'d prefer to see some progress, just a little.  I don\'t believe in ghosts.  HP

[JR]

Well, I\'d like to see just a little bit of progress too but this year the choice is either a lot or none.

[Holybull]

Not sure what to make of Larry Jones\' comments about still being undecided about running Mark Valeski.    He said he\'ll wait until Wednesday\'s gallop.  Standard?  Doesn\'t seem like it.

[Gerard]

Maybe he scheduled the gallop for after the post draw.

[Ill-bred]

I already don\'t like him in here, but fwiw, he\'s not looked great in the mornings.  He ran fast early slow late in his work today.

[Holybull]

Ill-bred Wrote:
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> I already don\'t like him in here, but fwiw, he\'s
> not looked great in the mornings.  He ran fast
> early slow late in his work today.

Agree, BUT...I keep thinking back to MJellish\'s post about not reading too much into works.   Tough, tough call.  Jones keeps saying if he gets entered, he\'ll be entered to Win.

[toppled]

Official announcement to come from the Jones boys at 10

[Holybull]

toppled Wrote:
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> Official announcement to come from the Jones boys
> at 10


Good.  Wasn\'t feeling confident about keying him given Jones\' comments lately

[drshillito]

Let\'s be honest, after the Eight Belles debacle in 2008, Larry Jones would have been crucified by PETA if he enters this horse in the Derby and he is less than 100% and God forbid, something happens to the horse.

[Rick B.]

Not to put words in your mouth, but Jones doesn\'t need the threat of the PETA fanatics to do right by his horses.

Unqualified kudos to him.

[Lost Cause]

Rick B. Wrote:
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> Not to put words in your mouth, but Jones doesn\'t
> need the threat of the PETA fanatics to do right
> by his horses.
>
> Unqualified kudos to him.


Definitely Kudos to Jones..in the meantime you have Lukas putting his horse in strictly to get in the spotlight....again....

[jumpnthefire]

hey if you look at the race backwards Optimizer wins!