"Look him in the eye, and he's counterfeit."

miff · August 13, 2010, 04:22:50 PM

Paul,

I consider touting on this site to be impolite since these guys get paid for their selections.

Soon there is going to be Exchange Betting and I am dying to see which so called \"pro\'s\" show up and for what amount, no spreading,no rebates, just opinion against opinion.

Mike

Frank · August 13, 2010, 08:26:56 PM

Been playing at Betfair for a long time. Canada is a civilized country. Hope y\'all join the party soon.

TGJB · August 14, 2010, 10:40:00 AM

Well, the guy you are considering taking on is, as far as I know, the most succesful day in day out horseplayer in North America who is not using betting software, just making his own decisions. Ask around, if you are wired in you know a lot of people who know who he is.

Frank · August 14, 2010, 10:45:55 AM

Thanks for the kind words but it appears to be a non event. Miff proposes a format that is unacceptable to me and he doesn\'t appear all that interested in my ideas. We\'re also $90K apart in the proposed stakes, he being the high man. Not dead yet though.

Frank

miff · August 14, 2010, 10:53:52 AM

Three guys who were previously said to be the most successful players in the country:

(NO NAMES)

#1. Passed last year owing $180k to Vegas and some NY wise guys.

#2. Looking to borrow $100K until early 2011 when he gets his tax withholding back, app $250k

#3. Desperate to sell a home for $1Million because he\'s broke.

Don\'t know anyone from Canada alleged to be a pro beating the game but certainly know thoses in NY and CALI, none are named Frank.

Mike

TGJB · August 14, 2010, 11:13:18 AM

I\'m betting 5 minutes and two phone calls will produce five people who know who he is. Try any rebater.

Or just ask Desormeaux\'s agent...

NoCarolinaTony · August 18, 2010, 09:22:26 PM

As of end of Wed the 18th.

I can tell you that 13 races were run @ 9F and that 23% were won w2w on fast and 4 races were run @ 9F on wet tract and 1 out of 4 won w2w. However horses running 1/2/3 at the top of the stretch have won @ 50% so far this meet.

Does that help you any?

If you want the stats i got them all....I do mean all, any track any day all the time.....

Now if i can only find the time to keep playing....

NoCarolinaTony · August 19, 2010, 08:09:32 AM

One other thing to add to this, the Average field size for this distance is 6.8 horses per race. This may have a lot do do with those results mentioned earlier.

NCT