Mine That Bird

Started by SonicDonn, May 02, 2009, 03:54:20 PM

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jumpnthefire

i threw away alot of tickets except i had to do a double take when i realized i had 6/6/7-12 for a $1 savor broke even for the day

NoCarolinaTony

I have to give it to this Jockey. He may not be the smartest in terms of IQ, but this guys can show the best Jockeys in  the country 8 times thid weekend on how to get an inferior horse to beat a better horse.

He Should be a Guest Speaker at the Saratoga Seminars on the effects of Ground Loss in horse racing.

Can someone please tell me why Coa gets off the rail with Musket Man and goes into the 8-9 path and Lets Calvin just Have it, He still may not have won it, but MM would have finished second...

NCT

rosewood

Tony,

I don\'t think he let him have it. Calvin took it......

NoCarolinaTony

I have to watch the replay online. Was at a simulcast center and never got a close enough picture or replay. He should never let that happen, if he did. Good for Borel. He showed up the best this weekend, that\'s for sure. He should clearly be looked at differently from hear on out as a two time Derby winner.

Maybe he should put out one of those Jerry Baily DVD\'s, \"do you know what I know?\"

NCT

congaree1

Tony,

Do you really think Gomez or say Prado is better than Boral?? I always try to avoid the media, during derby week, but the way they talked about Gomez and is horse selection, was nuts. We all have are ways and handicap the game differently, but I will never go for the jockey thing. They all ride wide from time to time. But in the end this game is all about the horse... Look where Prado turned for home with Dunkirk?

NoCarolinaTony

Sure sometimes wide is better....but he does the rail thing time and time again, in the biggest races. Kind of like AROD vs Jeter who\'s show\'s up when it matters most? Lately you have to say Borel. Coa comes off the rail into the three path then to the 6-7 path...Prado this, Gomez that.

Some say Jockeys don\'t matter, I\'d say today a Jockey Mattered.

NCT

rosewood

I\'m with you on that. I don\'t think Coa,Prado or Gomez could have found the finish line on that horse today. Borel is a horse rider.

Me or you could probably ride winning races with all the top horses the prima dona jocks have thrown at them to pick and choose from.

Lost Cause

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I have been watching races for a long time, 25 plus years..That was easily the most fearless ride I ever saw..He put that horse through a space I could probably not walk through never steadying once...It\'s like he didn\'t care about what could happen to him..UNREAL!!

chrifron

Borel is the king of ROI. During Friday\'s card on HRTV, Laffit Pincay III commented to Siegel after the rail ride on Miss Isella in race 7--boy, Jeff- Calvin Borel has something that I can\'t say on the air, because this is a family program.

BTW, TGJB\'s Derby analysis was spot-on with regards to Dunkirk\'s rider change from GG to Prado.


Boscar Obarra

I\'m sure there are many rides like that a year, but you don\'t get to see a blimp shot.

 That said, I agree, Borel rides like he doesn\'t even look, just head down and let the horse find the holes. Well, he may peek a little.

Lost Cause Wrote:
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> rosewood Wrote:
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> >  Borel is a horse rider.
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> I have been watching races for a long time, 25
> plus years..That was easily the most fearless ride
> I ever saw..He put that horse through a space I
> could probably not walk through never steadying
> once...It\'s like he didn\'t care about what could
> happen to him..UNREAL!!

properch

Another great ride by a jock at the top of his profession. I see Borel as a classy, humble man who deserves better than having his IQ questioned. He appeared to be the smartest person in Louisville this wekend. He could definitely teach geometry, and give you a lesson about class.

miff

Great ride by Borel but where did that Mine That Bird a confirmed slow rat get that engine from suddenly.No fluke that HUGE sustained run, which I defy anyone to show me a hint of in any of this horses pp\'s?figs.Forward moving pattern,my rear end, so what, he was 5-10 lengths slower than the entire field going in and had absolutely no license to throw a race like that.

I\'ll be a conspiracy idiot on this one, test results please! Humbled by a slow rat after tossing FF(nice spacing) Dunkirk(needs a nutritionist)clueless Sheik Mo\'s desert duo and all the phony wide plodders.Papa Clem would have made me a nice score considering how poorly I did overall.

Mike
miff

TreadHead

suspecting drugs? are we really going to go there?

He had never run on mud before and obviously loved it.

This can\'t be the 1st time a horse ran a 4 or 5 point new top 1st time mud/slop, is it really that unusual?

miff

Thread,

If you have followed this board too closely you know that I often rail at \"conspiracy idiots\", every race is fixed and every fast horse/performance is illegally enhanced and so on.My post is my way of making fun at myself.

As to mud,not mud or whatever,it is inconceivable in any racing sense, to review this horses pps/figs and conclude that his performance was remotely possible or forthcoming prior to yesterday.The rail was giant all day and he was there the whole race, that still does not come close to sufficiently explaining that run/ acceleration to me.


Mike
miff