Friesan Fire Blazes

Silver Charm · April 27, 2009, 01:10:23 PM

Wow just give him the trophy.

P-Dub · April 27, 2009, 02:43:30 PM

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> Wow just give him the trophy.

Don\'t be a jerk. He didn\'t say he will win, just that he has a lot of things going for him. Or is it that he likes a horse that you don\'t? You\'ve never touted a horse around here??

TGJB · April 27, 2009, 02:50:59 PM

Lighten up with name calling.

P-Dub · April 28, 2009, 01:10:43 AM

Sorry Silver. Poor choice of words.

big18741 · April 28, 2009, 05:21:08 AM

I didn\'t take any offense.Sometimes you have to actually think about how the race might be run.

Playing FF to at least pair with a decent trip is all.He doesn\'t have Hard Spuns natural gas so I peg him to sit 3rd or 4th early on if he doesn\'t get slammed/shuffled out of the gate.Of those that could be in front of him -Join In the Dance isn\'t much of a threat.Papa Clem looks to be sitting on a bounce race and I think FF is more horse than Regal Ransom.Desert Party should be in behind that group letting his stablemate do the dirty work.The faster ones and the synthetic horses farther back.

Not sure where Jones comes up with FF being a 2 mile horse on the bottom.Those Australian horses all look like sprinters unless I\'m missing something.

Silver Charm · April 28, 2009, 05:45:33 AM

So what you are saying is he gets a Barbaro Trip.

big18741 · April 28, 2009, 05:58:22 AM

Similar trip without the 4pt new top.

big18741 · April 28, 2009, 06:09:49 AM

Needs a middle in post also.

Silver Charm · April 28, 2009, 06:16:23 AM

Anything else?

Dry Track, 72 degrees, warm sun, 47 and change half?

big18741 · April 28, 2009, 06:24:21 AM

Yeah.

One dollar minimum supers.

Lost Cause · April 28, 2009, 06:41:45 AM

big18741 Wrote:
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> Yeah.
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> One dollar minimum supers.

Is that going to be the case again this year?
I hope so as the payouts are awesome..

alm · April 28, 2009, 07:20:23 AM

I am confused by the posters who see this as a confusing Derby. To me it is more clearcut than most.

There are 4 possible winners: IWR, Dun, WSB and FF. Two of them should make an exacta. Three of them might make the tri.

IWR stands heads and shoulders above the other 3, but I respect the fact that some pretty sharp guys here think he is regressing.

Below the top 4 are MM, WW, GQ and HMB, but they are not close. Maybe one of themm hits the board at a big price.

I lean heavily to Dun if you need one choice. And I love how Dun and FF have been prepped for the race...both represent important changes from the two trainers\' usual moves. It suggests both have learned a lot from past losses.

Interestingly, I cannot make the case for PON even hitting the board.

tim1500 · April 28, 2009, 07:36:44 AM

I agree with your picks but how does FF prep represent a change. Its the same way he prepped hard spun.

TreadHead · April 28, 2009, 07:37:38 AM

Saw someone else report that the dime supers are not offered Derby/Oaks day, so $1 min. But they are going to have the 50 cent pick 4s on Derby/Oaks days apparently.

congaree1 · April 28, 2009, 08:06:13 AM

Pioneer has already beat, IWR twice. So he is maybe lays over the rest of the field, but not this guy!