Zenyatta

Started by Silver Charm, September 27, 2008, 02:28:51 PM

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Silver Charm

She is going for the Older Distaff title here. Ginger Punch has already lost today. Hysterical Lady will try to out punch her first.

Don\'t wait to late Michael Earl Smith.

Silver Charm

If she goes in the Classic and wins how is she not HOY?

Because the media has already decided it is between BB and Curlin.

What a bunch of CRAP

miff

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.....JB may get his wish!
miff

shanahan

She sure has one of the most - if the THE most - fluid stride I\'ve seen.  A real treat to watch.

Silver Charm

If she goes in the Classic he has to show up.

With BB only to worry about he could pass on the BC then win the Clark and probably still be safe for HOY.

The filly now calls the shots

Michael D.

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> If she goes in the Classic he has to show up.
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> With BB only to worry about he could pass on the
> BC then win the Clark and probably still be safe
> for HOY.
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> The filly now calls the shots


what are you talking about? the trainer has already said they are going to Hol to train for the Distaff.

I don\'t think Zenyatta is going to beat Music Note.

Silver Charm

Winning the Distaff is a once a year occurance

They have a chance to make history. Surpass Personal Ensign, Ruffian and all the greats before her.

They will come to their senses

miff

\"I don\'t think Zenyatta is going to beat Music Note\"


Hi Mike D,

I might have agreed before watching Zenyatta handle that pro ride surface yesterday. Surface was plus app 180(9 lengths faster than normal raw)but her last 5/16\'s in 28.2 is in the freak zone for any horse much less a filly.

Her race, projected against Well Armed,(weak Cali GR 1 winner ran with 1 more pound) is slightly faster.If not Curlin or BB,I have not seen any other males that could hold her off on that surface assuming she fires her best shot.


Mike
miff

jimbo66

Michael,

Music Note and Hysterical Lady and Proud Spell would all beat Zenyatta on dirt, IMO, but after watching the \"pro-ride\" race of Hysterical Lady, I think Zenyatta wins the distaff on that \"non-surface\".

There has been nothing print anywhere about her going in the classic, at least nothing I have come across, so this whole thread is just wishful thinking.

Silver Charm

Miff she never got out of 2nd gear yesterday. That is per Simon Bray

Jimbo if this is another pick like the ones you posted for yesterday her chances just went way up.

miff

Silver,

I saw her performance. She was not pressed on but was hand ridden out. It is very difficult to truly assess performances on a surface that is sooooo fast as Santa was yesterday. Some horse love that rock hard, foot rattling type surface, while others get stung by it.

With nothing to lose, and given her apparent affinity for that surface and having \"outrun\" the Gr 1 males and given the uncertainty of how BB and Curlin will handle pro ride,(whew) I\'d run her in the Classic.

Agree with Jim,I think she\'s a legit 1/2 shot in the distaff.


Mike
miff

jimbo66

You are correct Silver, my picks were quite off yesterday.

But you ought to try handicapping, right or wrong, it is good the brain.  Much more cathartic than whining about how over-rated Big Brown is.

Unfortunately, at times the board hits a lull, where whining generates dozens of responses, but actual handicapping goes unnoticed.

smalltimer

She\'s gonna be going on Friday.  I agree, we\'re not gonna see her in the Classic.

Silver Charm

I think it is shame for the sport and filly if they do. She has a chance to make some serious history if they let her.

The owner is a class guy and the trainer a tremendous horseman. Two of the best assets the sport has to offer.

But nobody remembers Rags to Riches for her Ky Oaks win and people who barely follow horse racing know of her because she beat colts and won the Belmont.

A matchup of BB, Curlin, Commentator and Zenyatta would turn a BC that was not looking so hot because of all the Synthetic  and track issues into one for the ages.

Running on the Friday undercard is like saying you were once the warmup band for Rat.........

imallin

Zenyatta gets 3 or 5 lbs in the Classic by being a filly?

On that deep of a surface, she\'s a long striding closer who handles it great, the two main contenders are east coast horses who haven\'t been all that great visually in recent times either. Curlin is working hard to win as is BB and Zenyatta? She\'s winning graded horse races with the distain of an all time great and the connections won\'t even consider running in the classic with the weight break and all?

Maybe they ought to ask Mike Smith if he thinks she can beat the boys in the Classic, it would be interesting to see what this hall of fame jock has to say.