"It wasn't me"

[Halo Fire]

Dutrow puts the blame on Desormeaux.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/95324.html

[miff]

Can you believe these clowns.From Desormeaux.He \"knew\" D\'Tara was the one to beat once he got the lead, SAY WHAT??

How about,\"maybe three weeks was too much time between races\", hee hee, can\'t make this stuff up.


Tricky blaming the jockey when the horse was empty.Love this game more every day!

Mike

[Halo Fire]

Dutrow: \"I know he went into this race unbelievable, so the rest Kent\'s got to answer.\"

Earth to Rick. He didn\'t go into this race unbelievable. He was awful.

[cubfan0316]

horrible ride..... period.

[gohorse10]

I agree with Dutrow . I felt it was a suspect ride by Desormeaux.
 
 1. KD should be put on the carpet by the Steward\'s to explain his ride on BB.
 
 2 . If he was told to go to the front what was he trying to do in the first turn.
 3.2. Big Brown does break out into the 2 horse but KD does not want to be on the inside for some stupid reason .
 4. He ran Big Brown into Tale of Ekati, causing a gash in his right hind foot.
 5. He decides not to stay on the rail but instead pushes Anak Nakal out of his way to be  wide in the first turn.
 6.He finally gets him wide and outside of horses because that is where He wants to be.
 7.He takes no advantage of being on the rail.
 8.He asks for his run after a mile gets nothing while still very wide and decides to pull the horse up half way on the turn.
 9.I think Desormeaux Choked Big Time.
 10.He was not going to win anyway but that is not how you ride a 1 to 5 shot.
 11.If it was my horse I would be looking for another Jockey.

 One last thing I had the Bel. Analysis and made the same bet as JB in race 11.Box five horse the 3,4,7,8,9 in all exotics.

[Fatso]

Look at the tape Gents, If i was the owner I would thank KD for not abusing the Horse..now blaming him? you want to appeace the Investors?...Get real!

[gohorse10]

I am not blaming him for losing the race. I am blaming him for his over confident poor ride.

 I still think he should be called out by the stewards. Millions of dollars were wagered on Big Brown and KD is pulling up the horse because he was not going to be in the money. It does not look good if nothing is wrong with the horse.  


 The safety of the horse should always come first but I think he should of let the horse  finish the race on his own even if it was last.

[imallin]

Gohorse,

1) There\'s a difference between a bad ride and a dishonest ride. If the judges called every jock on the carpet who rode a bad race and questioned them, they\'d have holes in their carpet. Do you believe Kent did something dishonest? Do you think he did what he did on purpose? Was TC glory and a 5 million dollar bonus check and his sons eyesight not enough incentive for him to try to win?

2) The horse bobbled at the start. Before Kent was able to get the horse into proper stride, the leader was over and in front of him in the 1 path and the 7 horse was alongside him boxing him in. Kent had absolutely no where to go. The riders of the front runner and the 7 horse did an amazing job getting their horses in position early on. Its the trainer\'s responsibility to make sure the horse isn\'t \'running off\' with the rider while in a box. Its his responsibility to make sure that \'great horse\' is able to be ridden with kid gloves and responds kindly to rating tactics.



3) Kent didn\'t want to be behind a 40-1 shot who was soaking wet in the post parade. Can you blame him?

7) Why would you need an advantage of saving ground when the trainer told everyone this was an invincible horse before the race? When you are invincible, you get wide and out of harms way, which is what Kent did. You don\'t take even a 1% chance of getting boxed in or in trouble when you are a mile the best (like the trainer told everyone he was)

10) exactly HOW do you ride a 1-5 shot? If Kent would have sent BB and shut off D Tara and then dueled with Da Tara the entire first turn and into the backstretch and then tired, Kent would have been strung up in times square for dueling with a \'no hope\' 40-1 shot. If Kent sent BB to the front, he gets dueled into defeat.

I dont\' think people understand that this was a mile and a half race and you have to go as slow as molasses in the first half mile of the race in order to have any shot. People are saying Kent should have \'gunned\' BB to the front, i think anyone who says that isn\'t really thinking.

[miff]

Imallin,


When you are MUCH the best going in, you take command, thats why they wanted BB in front.D\'Tara never showed the same kind of speed that BB displayed, for example, the Fla Derby clearing from the 12 post.

He broke well enough to make the lead, but Desormeaux took hold as soon as he saw D\'Tara.  If he made the lead easily he still would have been off the board, imo. Having found no infirmiry/sickness, one has to assume he was over the top or if you believe several trainers,Billy Turner, Lukas, he was undertrained.


The horse was empty, period, the poor/panicked ride irrelevant.


Mike

[jbelfior]

I agree. The colt was empty.

The simplest explanation may be the best one; 3 races in 5 weeks for a lightly-raced 3 year old with bad feet. More seasoned and healthier 3 year olds have lost this race too.


Good Luck,
Joe B.

[RICH]

........and 3 big regressing negs in a row

[fkach]

>or if you believe several trainers,Billy Turner, Lukas, he was undertrained.<

Jean Cruget said the horse was undertrained BEFORE the Belmont.

I think we should call that the \"anti-bounce bounce\" theory. That\'s when a trainer is so worried about the toll some tough races are taking on his horse he doesn\'t train it enough and it goes off form for the opposite reason. ;-)

I\'m not sure Dutrow really had an option in this case. The horse had a problem.

[jbelfior]

That\'s why it\'s so hard to do.

Makes you marvel at the Seattle Slews of the racing world and tip your hat to those like Real Quiet and Silver Charm who ran their eyeballs out in all 3 races.


Good Luck,
Joe B.

[alm]

With all due respect to Jean Cruget, etc, I think Thorograph had it right...this horse was over the top, not undertrained.  There have been other poorly trained horses in the Belmont and they mostly fire and stall.  BB\'s batteries just ran down because he went to the gate run down.

Let\'s get on to the next topic and stop bashing Dutrow.  I doubt any of these other expert trainers could have put this horse over, under the circumstances.

[Ian Meyers]

I am waiting for the day when the trainer says

\"he ran three big figures in a row and two in the past month, and when they\'re set to bounce it\'s hard to quantify how large that bounce will be.\"

Probably not in my lifetime.