The Slowest Horse In The Race

[TGJB]

Anyone who has Ragozin sheets for today\'s Belmont should look at the third race, where Ragozin has Big Truck as co-slowest in the race with a 14. We gave him a 5 1/2. And this is at a track Len does himself.

Anyway, two fastest ran 1-2 in order.

[fkach]

Did the track changes speeds that day?

[stillinger]

TGJB Wrote:
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> Anyone who has Ragozin sheets for today\'s Belmont
> should look at the third race, where Ragozin has
> Big Truck as co-slowest in the race with a 14. We
> gave him a 5 1/2. And this is at a track Len does
> himself.
>
> Anyway, two fastest ran 1-2 in order.

Merciless, I admire that.

Almost as much as attacking the two worst favorites of the year
and getting it ALMOST PERFECT. Meantime, with my tight hips, I KNOW
Lava Man can\'t possibly win and don\'t spread like your clients, and
yesterday I KNOW Octave will be in the second slot, and I can\'t buy
your assurance that the bounce on dirt is good. And I thought I was too
old to learn. I used to see \"imperfection\" in the comments and knew I knew
more precisely, and was always too \"controlling\" to see the profit under that.

I have always been a life and death player, way too amped to back off and see LEVERAGE would be a nicer way to live. I promised myself I wouldn\'t become a groupie here,but I just have to say one time, clearly, how much I admire what
you have done in this, my life\'s first love, this GAME. In this era, event
driven as it has become, and with such global scope, I can\'t see a way
around not only giving you these props in public, which will mean more
to you in the year to come, and get off my HIGH horse, and accept what
the gods have finally decided I deserve after all these year, a great
consult.

Thank you,
skip

I will be back in earnest for innercourse, as it used to be 80% of my yearly action, and 90% of the good ink. Since, as Richie stated, there are only about
3 minds to read, and one path that you want, I have always considered it a grail quest. OF COURSE(S), it allowed the most expression for my MUST WIN THIS ONE attitude. I would expect a little different kind of winter coming up. Maybe even enjoy SA for a change, Latent Heat and Kip Deville were a nice start last year, but the play of that year was Bishop Court Hill/Santana Strings just before the gods decided we should break.

This is a gracious as I know how to be professionally.

[P-Dub]

stillinger Wrote:

> I will be back in earnest for innercourse, as it
> used to be 80% of my yearly action,

You\'re not hooking up with girlie, are you??

[stillinger]

P-Dub Wrote:
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> stillinger Wrote:
>
> > I will be back in earnest for innercourse, as
> it
> > used to be 80% of my yearly action,
>
> You\'re not hooking up with girlie, are you??

On the straight up, it\'s my wife\'s brithday,
she\'s been buggin\' me about \"face work\", mine
and hers, so my quest for the Inner, is just the old
fashioned one, 1) Christmas money, 2) Start 2008 !!
I am as late to this party as girlie and sandie, though,
so I ain\'t huffing here. Lookin\' for a little \"lift\" in \'08.

Meantime an 11f winner on the Belmont Inner, Turf that is.

[girly]

He\'d be pretty D--lucky if he did! LOL - Ya\'ll  make me laugh! C\'mon, back to handicapping

[girly]

I snapped back to  PDub before I read your message-no offense meant- Enjoy the day!

[Sandie]

ok. much on this board is still greek: but I learned how to read the sheets !!  I realize that many of you take breaks, but hope everyone here is up to bat for the BC, though.  Need the sage advice of the great players here: to help me draw my own conclusions.  Can\'t Wait to see everyone\'s thought process as we analyze the races that day !!

[TGJB]

The two sprints that day were over basically the same speed track, Beyer got it pretty close to what I did. This one is a head scratcher.

I first heard about this when Contessa was interviewed by Mary Ryan this morning, and he said he scratched out of a spot yesterday where Wishful Tomcat was 8/5 in the morning line to run in the stake because on Ragozin he was faster than Big Truck (on ours he was 6 1/2 points slower). I figured he must have gotten it wrong until I got a call 15 minutes before the race telling me the same thing. On Ragozin BOTH the first two were bet-againsts (they had Spanky off a 5 point top and only a point faster than WT, we had him off a pair of tops 3 points faster than WT)-- using their data there is no telling how much I or ANYONE would have bet on Wishful Tom at that price.

[stillinger]

girly Wrote:
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> I snapped back to  PDub before I read your
> message-no offense meant- Enjoy the day!

Hard to do the right thing on this day,
I am still thinkin\'. Insisting you have to go
to Bel/Office on TVG first has been a stretch for years,
and I am old enough now to realize that but not
old enough to change it. And I mean she REALLY
thinks I have been an a** most holidays and BDays
for 35 years. True story, we got married on the way
to a Bulls game, in the old stadium in CHGO. The game,
the marriage was at City Hall with a cab waiting.
IT stuck, but it needs RE_HAB !! I got carried away
with how fun it would have been to have listened to this
stuff for the last 25 years instead of INSISITING on being
RIGHT/Perfect/MSYSELF. My wife would have loved the difference at home,
that\'s for sure.

[girly]

Ya know, maybe something like this can\'t be taught, you just have to learn by experience, but what I think I would really like to learn is how to take advantage of my gut instinct without getting lost in the numbers. Yesterday was frustrating. I played the ROTW and some Belmont. I thought Octave would go # 2 but didn\'t play that way. I picked a straight exacta, tri and super in another race but forgot about betting them all because I got lost in the supers. To my chagrin, I saw them written on my sheet when I was checking my results. I picked another super and thought about putting Ballistic up front and said Nah- All in all if I had followed my impulses instead of thinking too much, I might have walked away with about 700 for an investment of 10 bucks. I think I am listening and trying to make up my own mind, and I know losing is part of the game. Can someone tell me how to take action when you \"just know\" and stop trying to handicap instead of keeping my head in the bets possible?

[stillinger]

Funny you mention, but as I have called and gotten no answer, you touch on why it took me so long, firstly to give Sartin some credit in the 80\'s and Len or Jerry credit in the early 90\'s when I should have perhaps. I have an IT background, am a real BOY,  but have ALWAYS made a living with my GUT. On a board I just announced my move here, I have counselled for a couple of years, how to trust and use exactly what you reference. While I think I was giving sound advice, as pressure and testosterone and $$ and doubt all lend themselves to \"left brain chatter, of the negative kind\", you also have to have internalized the \"FACTS\" to get the best of your creativity. I am with you, girl. I have taught the use of intuition in groups, from the US ARMY, where I demonstrated Quick Kill as a DI, to formal alignment with a nationally known Human Potential business. We can talk, while I, like you, listen to the men with the figs. I would be the last to trust a number,trust me on that. You have company here, and not flirting, just being real. Hang in, this I think is going to be really fun. The only reason I am not rich, is failing to follow through with exactly what you are saying, in other words, taking the BOY version, especially in 1979 when on a Monday morning after a night sitting in my closet wondering if having met the Sha\'s brother in Geneva, and reading all that stuff in Le Monde Economique in Paris, I could really see a winner - My partners took me immediately to an International Consultant that gave me the FIGS about why GOLD couldn\'t run. That was April \'79. That horse run off in hand and paid.

Takes both.
skip

girly Wrote:
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> Ya know, maybe something like this can\'t be
> taught, you just have to learn by experience, but
> what I think I would really like to learn is how
> to take advantage of my gut instinct without
> getting lost in the numbers. Yesterday was
> frustrating. I played the ROTW and some Belmont. I
> thought Octave would go # 2 but didn\'t play that
> way. I picked a straight exacta, tri and super in
> another race but forgot about betting them all
> because I got lost in the supers. To my chagrin, I
> saw them written on my sheet when I was checking
> my results. I picked another super and thought
> about putting Ballistic up front and said Nah- All
> in all if I had followed my impulses instead of
> thinking too much, I might have walked away with
> about 700 for an investment of 10 bucks. I think I
> am listening and trying to make up my own mind,
> and I know losing is part of the game. Can someone
> tell me how to take action when you \"just know\"
> and stop trying to handicap instead of keeping my
> head in the bets possible?

[P-Dub]

I couldn\'t resist that one girly and Stillinger.  Hope you had some winners this weekend.