Trevor Denman

[Uncle Buck]

Man - He completely butchered the race calls today. ESPN.com has all the race replays online tonight and I just went back and listened. He didn\'t even call Street Sense in the Juvey until he was 7 lengths in front at the 1/8th pole.

Tom Durkin is sorely missed

[Ron G.]

Agreed, if a blind man were listening, he would of been badly mislead in a couple of races.

[P-Dub]

I love Denman,  but have to agree this wasn\'t his best day.  His call in the Juvenile when he didn\'t mention Street Sense until he was already 5 in front was particularly bad.  Durkin is really good,  but I\'ve heard him call races poorly too.  It happens to the best.  I will say that some of his calls were quite good,  to say he butchered the entire day is just not true.

[mongo98]

Trevor is a very good race caller. I have listened to him for years @ SA. I think the crowd got to him today I think he washed out in the Paddock. Just not himself and I will line this one out and bet he does much better next time.

[richiebee]

Trevor\'s worst moment may have been that I do not think he
ever mentioned that Pine Island had fallen during the race.

The challenge for both Denman and Durkin is that they are not
used to calling races with full fields.

[miff]

Denman is no Durkin for sure. The TV coverage of the actual races on ESPN was awful with them switching to overhead shots and back. Between the video and Denman it stunk! No wonder why most of my horses were up the track.

Mike

[sighthound]

I\'m not happy with the ESPN contract restrictions and it\'s impact on \"the biggest day of racing\" and getting racing into the general public eye.  Locked out of radio broadcast, locked out of commonly available TV stations in Canada, locked out of simulcast on the betting sites, locked out of general public access.  

[ronwar]

The full fields AND the horses all wearing the same color saddle cloths! Whats up with that?

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Trevor Denman makes listening to a Grade I race like Listening to 5K claimers.

He does not belong in American Racing.

[asfufh]

Ronwar,Yea, trying to find your horse on the track video was even worst than usual with the same color saddlecloths and the full fields.....the newbies had to be really frustrated.
Bring on the chicklets!!!!
Asfufh

[brokerstip]

I Luv Trevor.

Best racecaller in the USA!!

Admittedly, in the Juvie, I looked at my pal while pointing at SS on our clubhouse TV...\"That\'s us isn\'t it??\"

I did that because Trevor called some horse coming wide. Of course, I was following SS the entire race and saw him \'scraping the paint\' .....and eventually steamrolling the field.

Think he called Invasor and BD perfectly in the Classic. Mentioned Bernadini struggling (which he appeared to be on the backside)----I think TD calls it \'being ridden along\'.

He consistently sees more of the racetrack than any other caller. Sees horses moving early, sees them looking for room, sees the pace implictions \"they couldn\'t be going any faster\", sees horses \"on a loose rein\", sees horses forced wide,  and calls the race as such.

More guys (including Durkin and Dave Johnson) have copied parts of TD\'s act than any other announcer I have heard (don\'t they all call the horse by silks and cap---\'that\'s so and so in the white silks with the red cap\")....and I have heard plenty. Now Dave Johnson is a racecall that I could use my earmuffs for...lol.


Bob

[Silver Charm]

Denham had a mistake or two but did very well overall.

I came very close to putting up a post last week titled, \"Don\'t get too Clever Trever\" but figured as good as he is he sure as hell doesn\'t need me telling him how to do his job. But these big days and big fields are tough. These guys are calling names they normally don\'t call on their circuit and there are things going on all over the place where they can\'t see everything.

Considering how unpredictable these finishes are I thought it was a good idea to not start calling horses \"moving like a winner\" at the three eigthes like you might be able to do on wednesday card.

Denman didn\'t. The year Alysheba won the Derby Dave Johnson ran thru the entire field then as he went back to the frontrunners as they were about to turn for home. Paused for what seemed like an enternity as he tried to gather himself or regroup or whatever. He seemed confused. Last year in ARC the racecaller called Hurricane Run in last then annnounced he won the ARC.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Once again in objective response will disagree. This isn\'t like comparing hypothetical matchups of Secretariat to Smarty Jones or Bernardini. Those races can never happen, but we can make a factual determination regarding the ability of Denman. He is clearly the worst major circuit race caller in the history of the sport. I\'d rather listen to Phil Georgeff, Vic Staufer or any number of other race callers noted for errors. At least with those other callers you can understand what they are saying and they don\'t add commentary about how a horse is moving which 90% of the time is inaccurate. With his miserable history what makes anyone believe Denman can pick out the way a horse is moving unless its under a snug hold on the grass? The horses he apprises the crowd to look out for habitually finish up the track and the horses that he says are not moving well are habitually winners or right there at the wire. He also calls horses by their saddle colors because ladies and gentleman thats how he identifies them. He doesn\'t have a clue as to the running style of how a particular horse moves, pace preference or probable positioning. Anytime when a horse bet to favoritism is not within two lengths of the lead he is \"not moving well\". Anytime a horse habitually makes middle moves before flattening, Denman calls him as a horse to watch when its making that middle move just before flattening again. But the worst is he makes all this commentary in that God Forsaken nasal twang of the commonwealth and whether its Australian or South African is irrelevant. Its objectionable to the ear. Its a disgrace to American racing and I for one will not tolerate it. I will not bet California in part because of him and if I do the sound is muted. Trevor the Twang lost audio for the breeders cup when the horses were loaded.

I urge all patriotic American handicappers to join me in boycotting that joke and if you can\'t see the truth don\'t despair because you are not alone. George Bush doesn\'t have a clue either.


Silver Charm Wrote:
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> Denham had a mistake or two but did very well
> overall.
>
> I came very close to putting up a post last week
> titled, \"Don\'t get too Clever Trever\" but figured
> as good as he is he sure as hell doesn\'t need me
> telling him how to do his job. But these big days
> and big fields are tough. These guys are calling
> names they normally don\'t call on their circuit
> and there are things going on all over the place
> where they can\'t see everything.
>
> Considering how unpredictable these finishes are I
> thought it was a good idea to not start calling
> horses \"moving like a winner\" at the three eigthes
> like you might be able to do on wednesday card.
>
> Denman didn\'t. The year Alysheba won the Derby
> Dave Johnson ran thru the entire field then as he
> went back to the frontrunners as they were about
> to turn for home. Paused for what seemed like an
> enternity as he tried to gather himself or regroup
> or whatever. He seemed confused. Last year in ARC
> the racecaller called Hurricane Run in last then
> annnounced he won the ARC.
>
>

[P-Dub]

You are an absolute idiot.  He is widely regarded as one of the finest race callers in the world.  Criticism from you,as you so gladly criricize everything, means so very little.  

He went through the entire field, identifying horses by both silks and caps so that fans could better follow their horse. He made a few errors, but if you don\'t think Durkin or any other race caller you like hasn\'t made any mistakes in big races then you are delusional.  So you don\'t like his \"twang\"......its called an accent you dope.  

This board has an East Coast slant, which is fine.  TG is based out of NY with a large number of customers from the east. Some of you obviously lust for Durkin\'s voice.  Thats fine,  he does a great job.  But get off your high horse with your pathetically lame Denman criticism.  To say he makes a BC race sound like a claimer is the height of stupidity. Just go away Clown.

[NoCarolinaTony]

broker...

Dave Johnson was doing thi in the early 70\'s. I doubt he copied Trevor Deadman.

NC Tony