"Overlay at 1-9"

[spa]

Joe, you miss the point. The ROTW is a race,once a week. Most are almost too tough to handicap! Since I\'ve used TG,my percentage of cashed tickets has gone up. I\'ve been betting for 50 years and there is no product to rival TG......
ps, we already have one clown in our family...........

[diamond-joe]

spa Wrote:
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> Joe, you miss the point. The ROTW is a race,once a
> week. Most are almost to tough to handicap! Since
> I\'ve used TG,my percentage of cashed tickets has
> gone up. I\'ve been betting for 50 years and there
> is no product to rival TG......



That\'s great for you, and I don\'t doubt it. I certainly realize that the ROTW is only one race, and like Len, we all have our share of races that don\'t pan out, but added up, the ROTW archive is littered with both poor results and plays that are no different from anything from the $5 DRF, and Jerry has his pick of any single stakes race on a given weekend, which he claims is his strongest category. I\'d expect SOMETHING to click for him above a $13 exacta, and if it doesn\'t, he would probably want to keep his mouth shut. But that\'s just one man\'s opinion. Maybe I was raised differently.

EDIT: I forgot the whole point of this reply. If you seriously think Jerry wouldn\'t want some great result from the ROTW that he could post on the site and talk about for years, you are really fooling yourself.

[diamond-joe]

mandown Wrote:
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> Dave/Soup/Diamond-Joe
>
> If you\'re not one and the same then the Koreans
> are behind the curve in trying to clone humans.
> Anyone who thinks \'Hehehehehe\' or \'Hmmmmmm\' etc is
> a telling debating point obviusly lacks something
> in the grey matter department. Hard to beleive
> that there are two of you Raggies that are equally
> that mentally-challenged. On the other hand . . .
>
> And while you\'re here can you run that
> quarter-point condition move stuff by us again?
> Len\'s figures are really that accurate are they?
> Plus or minus an eighth of a point? That\'s snake
> oil and anyone with half a brain would know it.
> Your view is?
>
> I admire your loyalty but you\'re making a fool of
> yourself. That latest post on Handicapping short
> prices was absolute tosh.
>
> Regards,
>
> George
>  



I don\'t even know what half this post means, but as for the \"hmmmmm...\", I lifted it from the end of Jerry\'s post (the one I was replying to). Sorry if you missed that, and don\'t be so hard on the boss. It\'s not good politics. You seem to have some hostility issues. Maybe try turning that frown upside down.

Tosh,

Joe

[spa]

Case in point, last week\'s ROTW was the feature. I bought the numbers for the last race. The TG numbers gave me (1) the winner (2) the exacta (3) the tri an (4) the super...........all pounded straight bets,that\'s why I use the TG. It\'s the money.

[diamond-joe]

spa Wrote:
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> Case in point, last week\'s ROTW was the feature. I
> bought the numbers for the last race. The TG
> numbers gave me (1) the winner (2) the exacta (3)
> the tri an (4) the super...........all pounded
> straight bets,that\'s why I use the TG. It\'s the
> money.
>  


Congrats, that\'s great for you. Considering Jerry\'s ROTW results, I\'d advise him to make you his house handicapper. How did those horses look in the Form and how do you think they looked on The Sheets? I think I remember most of that, I used Mott\'s winner and Frankel\'s 4th in the multirace gimmicks, and since I don\'t play much chalk, made most of my plays around the value of the Frankel horse who was an overlaid (in my opinion) 7-1. Not too often I get 7-1 on Frankel, but I can find 5/2 on Mott anytime.

Here\'s the finish:
1st  - Mott as 5/2 favorite by 2
2nd - Proctor as 2nd choice at 3-1 by a neck
3rd - 5th Biancone, Frankel, and Asmussen, all at about 6-1
rest of the field all double digits

Congrats, Thorograph, on playing against the public, and giving spa a $6.80 winner, $24 exacta, $77 tri, and $195 super.
Honestly not trying to make a joke out of your good handicapping, spa, but surely you can see how anybody might have made a similar play out of the $5 Form?

[marcus]

well i can\'t say with confidence as to what happened or what didn\'t happen - everybody has different takes and experiences , if culpability exsists - it\'s a shared entity by all parties involved .
 i understand what you are saying about the handicapping approach and wagering strategies , take whats there and do the best you can with the card or the day to get value ( and make money ) .

[NoCarolinaTony]

Diamond Joe .....red boarding can be very un becomming.

NC Tony