Andy Beyer on Triple Crown Spacing

[catherine]

Klown;

They say that brevity is the soul of wit, and - via the inverse - you prove that with every post.

\"If a future Barbaro bred wins the Derby in late April, the Preakness in June and the Belmont in August, (at 1 and 3/16\'s miles by the way), they may call him the first Triple Crown Champion since Affirmed. To the young and inexperienced he will be the equal of Affirmed.\"

... and ...

\"Old and experienced horse fans may understand that there is no comparison between Affirmed\'s exploits and Barbaro II\'s exploits, but they will be mentioned in the same breath and those drawn to the wonderful world of Horse racing will see them as having accomplished the same great feat.\"

I get it. This is not about you. It\'s all about the children, right? And the inexperienced. And those old and experienced ones who just don\'t get it. You are really just looking out for the immature, the ignorant, the (experienced) morons, right? I feel much better now. I thought you were speaking for true race fans, but I\'m much more at ease with you speaking for the immature, the ignorant, and the morons. Rock on!

\"So in that regard will the Triple Crown mean as much as it use to and if not how can you call Barbaro II a Triple Crown winner?\"

Hey! You said that changing the spacing would diminish the accomplishments of previous Triple Crown winners. Now you\'re saying that it only diminishes the accomplishments of future Triple Crown winners. Which one is it?

\"And who today holds Babe Ruth and Roger Maris in as high regard for their single season accomplishments?\"

Actually, to the discerning fan, those records look better with each passing day (even if Maris hit 61 in an expansion year and the Babe never faced the great black pitchers of the day in a game that counted). That\'s the point, Klown! Any accomplishment comes with a context. Did Native Dancer need to beat Dark Star to be a great horse? Or, only to be a TC winner? Was Go For Wand counterfeit because she broke down?

\"Or in other words were their monumental accomplishments overcome by the changed circumstances of artiface?\"

Whew! Stick to the other words!

\"Hope you didn\'t stay with Bro Derek for that Preakness. Although, you did seem to be going the right direction against him in the Derby. That is before you went with him, if I recall correctly.\"

Your recall, along with many other of your traits, is faulty. Try again.

Time to go. Gonna hitch my rhythm wagon to a star and fly on out of here.

To quote an absent poster who is sorely missed here ...

Later. May they all come home safely!
 

 

[TGAB]

JB\'s too busy losing golf balls but he\'ll take a look at the board tomorrow.  

[marcus]

the addition of a 4th race at dmr or sar @ 7/8\'s on turf that is the 4th leg in a 5 race trpl crown series that would also inlude the breeders cup races (in a  thoroughbred championship series)  would be a bold step modernize the \"sport\" . this  mean\'s pushing back the preakness and  belmont stk\'s . a weighted point system can be employed and along with culmlative values for each of the 5 race\'s in tc series  to determine a winner each year .  

[NoCarolinaTony]

First you don\'t know me, so don\'t try to desribe me or paint me as something I am not. Second, your entiled to an opinion- even if its wrong. Third- I am not a fan of Andy Beyer either. I am just appalled at the Charachter assasinations you make one after the other and now directly with me.

Lastly as you say this is America and you are innocent before proven guilty.  How you can speak with certainty about other peoples charachter like you do - like Beyer\'s is totally out of line. We should be talking about handicapping philosophies and not conspiracy theories with no basis.

In your posts, It\'s hard to discern what is opinion from what you claim as fact.However, I see that Chuckles the Clown can.

NC Tony

[NoCarolinaTony]

I finally got to hit some myself last night. Lost 1, but still shot an 80.( in 18 that is)

NC Tony

[flushedstraight]

How about this idea;

- put a purse cap on all 2yr old races
- make the BC classic & distaff restricted to 4yr olds & up
- change the 2 BC juve races to 3yr old only
- make the Triple Crown races for 4yr olds only and keep the dates as-is

The average fans filling the track on the big days would still show up; most of them couldn\'t tell the difference between Seattle Slew and Zippy Chippy...

Face it, the game has changed permanently, primarily because of new technology. They\'re getting that one big race out of these young ones; last year it was the derby preps; this year Matz hit the bulls eye in early May. What\'s gonna change this trend of \"one and done\" at this point? And the even younger ones?... can\'t speak for you, but if I was training a 2 yr old for Merv Griffin, I\'d do anything technically possible to get him into the winners circle at the BC.



*note: I\'m not providing any facts, only presenting an idea, and probably even a bad one for a few reasons. Please ignore it if it creates any negative emotional reactions, it is meant to be harmless. I don\'t have the racing heritage of the NY Times, but at least I can tell you who\'s running in the feature at Belmont today, and maybe even create a little drama around it to get a buzz going, and perish the thought, to actually get some people out there and turn that mausoleum into the lively wonderful place that it can be.