RAMON DOMINQUEZ

[mikemd]

\"A quality horse shouldn\'t react to a whip like that no matter how hard he\'s struck- if its on his flank.\"

what does this have to do with \"quality\"?  i saw MO make a similar statement.  i guess thorograph needs to start charting reaction to the whip instead of speed figures and we can make our selections based up that.

[MO]

Quality horses have been properly schooled.

Crappy T has all the quality of a maiden claimer.

Come on people, we all know now that these horses are piece of crap milers. None could carry Alysheba\'s tack to the paddock. Let\'s move on to the Belmont where some other piece of crap miler will win, and it won\'t be Afleet Alex. He\'s toast.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

lol

Scrappy has never been worse than 3rd. Though he was way off form in that Wood. He has had some issues straightening out, but he can overcome that.

Alysheba would have won that Derby, but he\'d of lost that Preakness. Alysheba didn\'t do so good in the Belmont either. Matter of fact due to his 4th he lost the bonus to Bet Twice is my recollection.

[MO]

I know, I know.  It was all that Lasix BS. McCarron sez he screwed up, but if Alysheba had lasix we would be talking less about Seattle Slew and more about the greatest horse to ever look through a bridle - Alysheba.

wink

[marcus]

No doubt some of the worse race riding seen in my 15 years of being around the game , in my nievity I thought the horse would invariably be placed last - Scrappy T had a better chance of winning at that juncture had the goof ball jock droped his whip ...

[shanahan]

jeez louise...OK, I\'ll add my two cents to this brain trust:
1) what if don Denkinger calls him out?
2) what if the russian ref knows the real time left in the game clock?
3)  what if Ruffian stays healthy?
4)  what if Bucky Dent pops out?
5)  what if Bobby Orr played for the Leafs?
6)  what if cigar stayed on turf?

why is this conversation happening?  We want handicapping conversations...please!

[gvido]

 shanahan wrote:

\"why is this conversation happening? We want handicapping conversations...please!\"

So what\'s preventing you from posting about handicapping, bunky?

[Silver Charm]

>and a horse looking for a tainted triple crown at Belmont........)

You are assuming everything would have occurred as it did. You, me and everyone else don\'t know that.

I\'m sure like all of us you have seen numerous spills and it resembles a NASCAR accident where all of the other riders go into damage control. Save the horse and your own rear-end.

For all we know Going Wild could be wearing the Black-Eyed Susans.



Post Edited (05-26-05 08:06)

[jimbo66]

SC,

Whatever would have happened, Going wild wouldn\'t be wearing the Black-Eyed Susans.

First of all, it is irrelevant as to what would have happened.  

But, 99% likely that Giacomo would have won.  Normally, a spill would scatter all the horses and you would have chaos, agreed.  But this particular spill would have happened in the 5 or 6 path, as they were well clear of the rest of the horses.  Not likely anything about the order of finish would have changed.

[Josephus]

Scrappy made the lead with his ears pricked. He did it easily and hadn\'t been asked to run yet.  Ramon made an idiotic move, winding up and hitting him very hard IN THE RIBS.  Maybe he felt the horse let up a bit, but it wasn\'t because he was tiring. I think it was either the wall of noise or the horse relaxed a bit once he made the lead so easily.  AA was coming like a frieght train,but it would have been interesting to see if a stretch developed. Ramon should defintely be penalized for STUPIDITY. He\'s not ready for prime time.

OF course The fact that I had a huge double going with Eddington and Scappy T, colors my view. But I did save it with AA over Scrappy T in the Exacta.

[richiebee]

Funny that there were two separate threads after the Preakness which could have been connected but weren\'t:

Thread 1: The possibility that Thunder Gulch was \"electrically aided\" in his Derby win.

Thread 2: The contortion of Scrappy T after being struck by Dominquez\' whip in the Preakness. I am not saying that Dominquez (who took too much heat for his Preakness ride, IMO) carried a battery, but I feel confident that said device is still used in in some instances in morning training.

The way it used to work was that an exercise rider or groom would plug the horse in the morning, and then the jock, in the afternoon, would merely have to go near the spot where the horse had been hit to get the desired result.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Josephus wrote:

> Scrappy made the lead with his ears pricked. He did it easily
> and hadn\'t been asked to run yet.  

Didn\'t think Scrappy was the least bit tired either. Guess we\'ll see. Even when he took the shot, Scrappy had a look to him like \"What the **** was that.\" They need to enter him in every big money 3YO race Alex skips. Hes got a lucrative future. Liked him post Whirlaway. Doubted him post Wood. Reliked him post Withers. Now hes a second favorite.

One other thing if the old eyes don\'t deceive. Hes a bit of a brut aint he?



Post Edited (05-26-05 13:42)

[Silver Charm]

I can actually see Wayne in the Winners Circle wearing a big smile and telling the Media, \"We caught a couple of breaks but I know in my heart I ran the best horse\".

[jbelfior]

I\'m wondering if D. Wayne Lost-It is considering the Met Mile-Belmont Stakes combo for GOING WILD.

Think he\'ll be able to talk the Lewises\' into that one??



Good Luck,
joe B.

[big18741]

Chuckles

On Scrappy T:

Your eyes don\'t deceive.Nice looking animal with a cruising gear.Has a ton of upside.The old man Fit to Fight was ok at 3-good at 4-a beast at 5.Scrappy the gelding will be around for a while.Plenty of time to rack up wins.Take another crack at Alex now.If Alex runs back to his Preakness its lights out,but seeing an effort that good or close to it is no sure thing in the Belmont.Besides,second money of 200k isn\'t bad either.

I wonder about Bailes-saddle slips in the Wood-horse goes to sleep once he makes the lead in the Withers,Preakness antics-I think this horse could be much more right now in another barn.If I owned him-I\'d give Bailes the spring and summer,and if he\'s not straightened out by then I\'m turning him over to Mandella.That s.o.b knows how to win those million dollar pots in his backyard.