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[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

derby1592 wrote:

>> Amazingly, Pletcher says he will not be starting any of his
> half dozen recent 3yo stakes winners in the Preakness. I am
> assuming that Pimlico will also be doing supertesting in the
> Preakness (not sure about that - if anyone knows please let us
> know).

hmmmmmmmm

very sneaky

Not a one? Pletcher isn\'t gonna send a single one his overpowering pedigreed animals to the Preakness to try and catch Lukas one day? I can\'t believe that.

One Last point Chris, if you were onto this theory for the pick 4 and Derby, its a bit surprising you didn\'t have Giacomo in considering you did have Wilko.



Post Edited (05-08-05 16:51)

[NoCarolinaTony]

Pletcher Did win a graded stakes with Limehouse on Friday

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

I dont think that one was graded either NC.

I got burned for more money on bandini than i would have otherwise thinking the Three Chimneys was graded...it wasn\'t....freaking Youbet

[razzle]

Derby,

Glad you mentioned the 2yo winner Pletcher had.  That one HAD to be JUICED!!  Thinking wretched Pletcher left his syringe at home, I omitted him from p3s, and played all others.

I agree Churchill made a difference with their super-testing and 6 hour detention(if I got that right). I\'m with you regarding the Preakness, I\'d like to know the Pimlico plans for testing.

raz

[jbelfior]

Pletcher will probably run FLOWER ALLEY.

I\'m hoping Zito runs HIGH FLY. Perhaps the Derby race is just what he needed off of the 5 week layoff.

I do not agree with you TGJB when you say that pace was not the overriding factor. An overly hot pace at a distance never traveled throws all prior performance ratings into the trash. Sorry, that\'s just the way it is.

Performance ratings are a terrific tool, however they do not hold up under ALL circumstances. Horses with 5\'s and 4\'s as their best numbers do not suddenly step up and win the Derby unless something unusual (e.g. an overly hot pace) causes the others who have superior numbers to not run their normal race.

Now on to the PREAKNESS with no rabbits, less horses, and hopefully a sensible pace  where the numbers can be used with confidence to help solve the next puzzle.


Good Luck,
Joe B.

[Silver Charm]

>I agree Churchill made a difference with their super-testing and 6 hour detention(if I got that right). I\'m with you regarding the Preakness, I\'d like to know the Pimlico plans for testing.

No doubt it made a difference.

I also the think that the message should be sent that if Pimlico does not implement similar procedures EVERYBODY should bet elsewhere for the day.

[Mall]

The testing & detention were probably most important, but another step which might have played an important role was the presence of what were described as \"plainsclothes\" agents on the backstretch throughout the week. Exactly what that meant was never described, but the strong impression I had was that the atmosphere was much different, & I\'m guessing for some much riskier, than ever before.

[Silver Charm]

I went over on Thursday to pick up some tickets and two plain clothes bums were hauling off a handcuffed drunken bum.

If these kind were wandering around the backstretch anybody willing to try and cheat was possibly taking their career into their own hands.

[RVL @ the Spa]

The supertesting regime was introduced last year by the American Graded Stakes Committee of TOBA; implementation had been stalled until this weekend.

Here\'s the way it works: if a racetrack wants to keep graded status for its stakes races, it must perform the supertesting as specified.  Therefore, you can look forward to supertesting in the Preakness, Belmont, Breeders Cup, etc. Assuming the test protocol remains in force, of course (its easy to see where some \"powerful\" forces may not be too pleased with yesterday\'s result.)

Interesting how it took an auxilliary body, such as the American Graded Stakes Committee, to finally put a policy in place.

[Silver Charm]

>you can look forward to supertesting in the Preakness.

What about the rest of the card.

Business as usual.

I\'m sure the Dutrow boys will be shipping several in from Delaware and isn\'t that where Gil/Shuman are home based.

I\'ll take that 11:30 Tee Time.

[RVL @ the Spa]

I agree: there\'s no excuse for not implementing the supertest across the board.

Still, considering how long it has taken to get this far, it\'s an admirable start.  Now, they can steal the crumbs, but not the cake.

[Mall]

SC: Sounds like you had a terrific time. I\'m sure you saw the expansive local coverage of the gala, but I\'m not sure if you followed the admonition in my post on wolf teeth. Removing them apparently doesn\'t make a horse run faster, although I\'m sure there are some here who might argue that HL would have finished even farther back in last if the operation hadn\'t been done.

RVL: It was interesting that it came in through the back door, so to speak, & equally interesting were all of the groups & individuals who were opposed on the grounds that the Committee was exceeding its authority. Good thing they didn\'t back down for once.

[Silver Charm]

>I\'m sure you saw the expansive local coverage of the gala

And the National Coverage also. Pick-up the USA Today tomorrow. When Michael Jordan drops by to see whats going on, you know something is working.

Sixteen months since I last saw you Mall and six since I last saw Catalin. Too long for two people who I think so highly of.

For those who posted Summerly lost at Keeneland because she couldn\'t handle a pressured pace...
 
Wrong.

The word came indirectly from two direct sources (jockey/trainer) toss the Keeneland race, they were sending and look for here to win.

I had a nice score but gave it all back on Saturday. Others I know wheeled her in the Oaks/Derby double and are still counting $100 dollar bills.

Now that Keeneland has addressed the Drug Issue maybe they can throw some of their millions into a new racing surface. The piece of %&#@ has got to go.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Silver Charm wrote:

> Now that Keeneland has addressed the Drug Issue maybe they can
> throw some of their millions into a new racing surface. The
> piece of %&#@ has got to go.

I\'ll second that motion.

[Silver Charm]

Way too big of an inconsistency between that surface and Churchill. The proof is in the performances.

For those of you who make figures, its probably a rub your hand thru your hair experience each day when you sit down to do a card.

And while they are at it, tear down the whole plant. The 10,000 seat, pinky waving, set-up they have now is obsolete.

What if a Slots Bill passes. Where are they going to put it, at John T. Wards house.

Think Outside the Box Keeneland.