Does Racing Really Have a Future and If So What Does it Look Like and Who is it With?

Started by Silver Charm, November 13, 2025, 05:43:09 AM

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Silver Charm

So there were some fun stories told about excerpts from the Billy Walters book that were a tab funny and sort of a \"No way\" eye roll and head shake. About a High Profile Pro Golfer sending $100K bets in on NBA Games he knows nothing about while he is in the middle of a tournament at Pebble Beach. About a Tank Sized ex NFL Super Bowl Winning Offensive Lineman sitting in the high profile chair at the High Roller table at an Atlantic City Roulette Table when they (the House) thought it was good for business but he was really a Trojan Horse.  

But there were other stories half told or for those who know a little more you don\'t really want to know. Before online Betting was spread Nationwide. Before every casino had a Sports Book a lot of those bets had to place via Books in New York, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Detroit etc etc. Odds shopping was the norm.

Shady Characters were part of the Team and if somebody got out of line, skimmed, didnt pay, or just plain lied a Discipline Team was sent to the field. You know, Whitey Bulger style. Baseball Bats, a little rope, some duct table. This is no joke. Is this who Racing wants to Partner with? Groups that once they see there is maybe $100,000,000 of large and average player money swirling around in the Pools over a 90-180 day period. Money that they can take all for themselves?

Now we are introducing the Worlds Best Cyber Hackers. Expert Voucher Counterfeiters. Slight of hand artists, etc etc But the visionary\'s of racing are smarter than all this....or so they think. They have Vegas style internal controls and surveillance in place? You\'re an idiot if you believe that. When Jorge Navarro ships in Sharp Azteca to blow away the field on Derby Day in the Pat Day Mile and later go to Saratoga and have Shanzalot crush another field from the 13 hole in the Amsterdam at 6/5 off a 1X allowance win. Racing didnt catch this guy the Feds did. When a snitch, snitched on a snitch after he decided to save his own skin from something else. Racing didn\'t have a clue or looked the other way.

If the Racing people want to convince everyone that none of these type of people are controlling the Pools after Tracks GAVE THEM A REBATE DISCOUNT, then release their names. Are they Horse Owners, Track Board members, Advisory Members? No Conflicts of Interest there. The Sport of Kings has been turned into The Sport of CLOWNS. They are spiraling the Sport down the drain. A game many of us grew up with and loved. There is NO TRANSPARENCY and proper controls. The guys I previously mentioned are smarter than them. They just dont want to admit it, Well guess what just like our gut instincts tell us the \"I think the 4 is Live, those same gut instincts are telling us the game is dirty and getting dirtier until changes are made...

HP


catcapper

Follow the money
See who contributes
He needs to ve pursued on this issue so he represents the industry and players, not the CAW parasite

And yes, SHOW US THE NAMES!!

Silver Charm

When the Principals are running cover for them. The only variable is time. Or perhaps the time is already here. And keep in mind Gangsters wear Suits too....

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/46957471/14-arrested-mafia-backed-betting-ring-involving-athletes


catcapper

Yes, the enemy is well dressed and walks amongst us. I have realized this for some time.
Now, it seems they are everywhere and more than we realized

SPORSTMANSHIP is a real thing and it is the base, the heart and soul of solid organizations and communities.  Sportsmanship is a REAL VALUE, a way of living and working
But Sportsmanship, too, diminishes with each and every moment of corruption

We each have to choose- especially you big guys out there-
“Am I going to be a real Sportsman first, or a just another squirrel looking for a nut?”

Dale, are you listening?

Stand firm to the worm, All.

Corruption is another expression of anarchy. It is not justifiable because ‘everyone is doing it’
And yes,  corruotion is part of the human condition, but it is not our better self and we don’t have to live corruptly. Everyone gets a choice. Everyday you get a choice

Roman

Being brought up \"Roman\" Catholic, lol, I live with a perpetual guilt, just from not being able to do more. I could not sleep at night if I was corrupt morally.
There are good people in this world, and we/they need to stand together and fight any and all corruption.

Corruption might not affect you this time, but it will affect you eventually.

Silver Charm

Same applies for me. I am a Certified Public Accountant but no longer practice . Just do internal finance and consulting. However I always have and always will abide by Rules and Laws and Ethics. It\'s not even a question of \"Do I or Don\'t I\" for me!!

Racing in a PATHETIC desperation move for probably survival has embraced and gone into Partneships with some of the most Corrupt and Unethical Groups in the Gambling Sports World. They have deep pockets to survive loses and shallow ethical standards and values. They have sophisticated tools and are Street Smart. The latter the game knows nothing about. They sold their souls and our Sport to the Devil and there is no turning back unfortunately