Is Taiba In The KY Derby Good For Horse Racing

[Tavasco]

While binge-watching \"The Fall\" on Prime Video also via Peacock I got to wondering in a particularly confusing segment.

What if someone, even Beychock et al, filed suit to prohibit the Sham of Taiba from being trained and consequently subject to rules violations by Bob Baffert from running in the Kentucky Derby.

Point #1 - Power Crazies CDI and Bob Baffert (Trainer) are feuding. Their needs may compromise the upcoming Ky. Derby for large numbers of fans and bettors. aka I never want to hear the names, Hitler, Stalin, Putin, Madoff, Cosby, Navarro, Paddock, or Baffert again.

Point #2 - Bad Bob\'s team has gone to Tim Yakeen\'s employ. Should I now consider Yakeen an outlaw? I suppose CDI\'s suspension should have included Baffert\'s employees, vets, etc. Isn\'t the Taiba\'s jockey complicit in wrongdoing or just a greedy pos?

The spirit of Churchill\'s suspension is-  we don\'t want Bob Baffert and those like him in our show. If Churchill loses that control, I predict CDI will fold its horse racing tent sooner than later.

Lot\'s more to consider but if Taiba goes so do my measly $\'s.

[jbelfior]

If CDI doesn\'t want Baffert and \"those like him\" then how is Brad Cox allowed to run his horses?

Interesting how Brad\'s success skyrocketed once his wife graduated vet school.

Good Luck
Joe B.

[arcadia123]

Did Taiba ever test positive?  Is Yakteen banned from running in the Kentucky Derby?

For all of the Baffert enthusiasts here, listed below are Bob\'s starts in the past five plus years with the amount of starts in graded stakes races along with win percentages.

Year    Starts         Graded Stakes
2022 -   68 (33%)       35 (37%)
2021 -  341 (32%)      118 (28%)
2020 -  323 (30%)       96 (30%)
2019 -  325 (24%)       96 (18%)
2018 -  348 (32%)      103 (26%)
2017 -  313 (27%)       99 (31%)

Baffert is not a choir boy.  He\'s treated as if every horse he ever raced was drugged.  He wins a lot, I get it. He\'s got the best clients in the business with some of the best stock in the world.  Runs in a circuit with dwindling amount of average starters.  I think his win percentages should be high.


Baffert is the perfect magician\'s distraction using sleight of hand in that he has nearly 100% of the eyeballs on him while a large handful of the industry\'s trainers enter way more horses and move them up way beyond reasoning on a daily basis to pull rabbits out of hats.

If Baffert is dirty, I trust that the system would catch up to him.  In the meantime, I don\'t find it difficult to avoid betting on small horse fields in California anyway.  Which only leaves the few dozen times Baffert enters horses elsewhere in the country, which I can use my handicapping judgement to determine if I want to invest or not.

Question for Jerry Brown if you are comfortable to answer:  With all of the data that you\'ve been collecting on \"move up\" trainers, is Bob Baffert a blip on your radar?

[Tavasco]

jbelfior Wrote:
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> If CDI doesn\'t want Baffert and \"those like him\"
> then how is Brad Cox allowed to run his horses?
>
> Interesting how Brad\'s success skyrocketed once
> his wife graduated vet school.
>
> Good Luck
> Joe B.


Good point Joe. The one difference seems (to me) Cox is not in the spotlight or spoiling for a fight.

Is he parking in the no-parking zone too?

I was just wondering why the media isn\'t mentioning Mr. Brad and his Arkansas Derby winner with the Celebrity contenders? One of my impressions is, that is one of the colts I don\'t expect to bounce. Note - that one along with the Japanese entrant. LOL

[TGJB]

I've posted several times about this, and in general terms I agree with you.

[jma11473]

1) Horseplayers: Clean up the game! All of this cheating is a travesty!
2) Trainer gets busted.
3) Horseplayers: Not that guy! Why him? It was poppyseeds/an ointment/the groom\'s fault. Why don\'t they get Trainer X instead?
4) Horse racing industry: Shakes its head, returns to ignoring cheating.

Baffling.

[confused]

Test positive for what?  There are two significant medications that cannot be detected.  Does it matter if Baffert\'s horse hasn\'t had a positive?

No.

But it won\'t matter in this case.....that horse won a typical SoCal hothouse race and will not likely bring it with him to Kentucky.