TGJB: Michael— I disagree with you about the Baffert thing, but agree with you about the state of the game/industry. The problem is your leaving isn't getting enough attention.

Rich Curtis: Getting Carville to leave horse racing might help. It would be a nice twist. Carville brought Beychok in. Beychok takes Carville out. Political consultants thought they had seen it all--then decide horse racing is more than they can stomach.

Tavasco: MB, my apologies about the mis-information.

prist: hellersorr Wrote:
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> This is:
>
> A.  A koan.
> B.  Something from Laugh-In.
> C.  Yogi Berra.
> D.  Does Jerry Brown drive?
> E.  All of the above.

I\'ll go with A.

KOAN looks well placed in the 9th at Parx today. :-)

hooper: Congrats.

The National Thoroughbred Racing Association (NTRA) selected five handicappers for induction to the NTRA National Horseplayers Championship (NHC)\'s Hall of Fame: Stanley Bavlish, Michael Beychok, David Gutfreund, Paul Matties, Jr., and the late J. Randy Gallo.

prist: hooper Wrote:
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> The National Thoroughbred Racing Association
> (NTRA) selected five handicappers for induction to
> the NTRA National Horseplayers Championship
> (NHC)\'s Hall of Fame: Stanley Bavlish, Michael
> Beychok, David Gutfreund, Paul Matties, Jr., and
> the late J. Randy Gallo.

Yeah, what a joke. I don\'t see my name anywhere on that list. :-)

hellersorr: Along those lines, a handicapping Hall Of Fame that includes neither Clocker Bob nor Chuckles The Clown is a Hall Of Fame unworthy of the name.

hooper: Previous inductees. https://www.ntra.com/nhc/nhc-hall-of-fame/

prist: prist Wrote:
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> hellersorr Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is:
> >
> > A.  A koan.
> > B.  Something from Laugh-In.
> > C.  Yogi Berra.
> > D.  Does Jerry Brown drive?
> > E.  All of the above.
>
> I\'ll go with A.
>
> KOAN looks well placed in the 9th at Parx today.
> :-)

Dude, that Zen shit don\'t work. KOAN was off the board. :-)

hellersorr: prist Wrote:
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> prist Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > hellersorr Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > This is:
> > >
> > > A.  A koan.
> > > B.  Something from Laugh-In.
> > > C.  Yogi Berra.
> > > D.  Does Jerry Brown drive?
> > > E.  All of the above.
> >
> > I\'ll go with A.
> >
> > KOAN looks well placed in the 9th at Parx
> today.
> > :-)
>
> Dude, that Zen @#$%& don\'t work. KOAN was off the
> board. :-)


\"Hunch play\" stories always seem to work better in retrospect.  )

prist: arcadia123 Wrote:
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> I don\'t begrudge anyone for choosing what to do
> with their own money so good on Michael Beychok
> for choosing to leave wagering on horse racing.
>
> In respect to the lawsuit, eff Michael Beychok!
> It\'s very presumptuous for him that he is smarter
> than everyone else and would have had the winner
> if not for Bob Baffert and Medina Spirit with 21
> picograms of Betamethasone in a post race sample.
> Medina Spirit did not move up all that much in the
> Kentucky Derby and was on the lead while being
> stalked by the great Soup and Sandwich. Mandaloun
> was a bigger improvement and harder to get to on
> figs than Medina.  Medina Spirit came back to win
> a GI in the Awesome Again and run second in the BC
> Classic while literally under a microscope.  
>
> I hear more screaming about Baffert while other
> trainers move up horses on a daily basis at a
> track near you.  Clean up the sport, YES.  Sue
> because you lost, come on man.

I wonder if Kinchen will be looking for a lawyer after his DQ.

jma11473: prist Wrote:
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>
> I wonder if Kinchen will be looking for a lawyer
> after his DQ.


Since he already tweeted that he accepts the ruling, I\'m thinking no.

prist: jma11473 Wrote:
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> Since he already tweeted that he accepts the
> ruling, I\'m thinking no.


Thanks. I\'m not on Twitter.

I thought he might have a case if he told them he was just there to look at the statue.

prist: There seems to be more to this story. Anyone have the juicy details?

Roman: Have you read this?
https://pastthewire.com/did-jonathan-kinchen-cheat-at-the-nhc-contest-in-las-vegas/