Diodoro puts the good wood to DUNPH...

Started by JohnTChance, May 07, 2020, 07:43:46 PM

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JohnTChance

Three months ago, I commented here about trainer Robertino Diodoro\'s horses exploding at Oaklawn in preposterous ways. Eyepoppers, time after time after time. We all can bet Diodoro and profit. But past a certain point, it\'s really not funny. It\'s stuff for the FBI.

I suggest anyone interested should download Jerry\'s Oaklawn May 2 finals and take a look at the winner of OP\'s 9th last Saturday: DUMPH, was first off the trainer change to Diodoro. Lo and behold, that day the gelding suddenly decided to move up a whopping 14 lengths to win at 58-1 and pay $117.60! Whew.

Diodoro was a good thing to win the coveted Oaklawn trainers title as the meet wound to an end. He seemed a lock. He had like a 5 win lead down the stretch over Steve Asmussen. Except, there\'s a history of Asmussen winning 5 races on big Arkansas Derby days. He\'s done that so many times before. [\"If Steve\'s boys are in, he\'ll win.\"] And indeed Asmussen started out Saturday winning the 2nd and 4th races to close the gap. I presume Diodoro went to the well and DUMPH was insurance he wouldn\'t get caught in the last days of a long meet he\'d worked so hard at.

Somebody put the good wood to DUMPH on Oaklawn\'s 9th last Saturday. Whatever got into the animal that day, he zoomed from a 7 to a -1. What horsemanship!

Strike

A great reason not to play Oaklawn or any place he races horses. I feel the same about P Miller. If you \"just have to throw them in\" I don\'t want to play. Get rid of these 30% guys. \"Common sense isn\'t so common... .\"

billk5300s

I’ve posted some observations about RD before.  He routinely does this at WRD and TUP.  The difference at the smaller tracks is that you won’t see 58-1.  Instead these horses run holes through the wind at even money.  I will note that since the indictments went down that these miraculous horses appear to be entered less frequently but they are still out there.

bluechip21

what is even more interesting about Diodoro is that he only does it for certain owners. He trains exclusively for a few guys at NYRA, and hardly wins. Imagine what his winning percentage would be if you removed those horses from the equation!

Silver Charm

The #\'s suggest something was different and may very well not be legal or legit. Why cant this be questioned? Like how did you do it? What was different? If the claim is its proprietary. Then do your business somewhere else. This is to consistent of an event with this guy. Take a stand

bluechip21

This may not be a popular opinion, but I miss leaning on guys like Servis (Navarro, not so much) in my horizontals. ... what is interesting this the timing of the FBIs indictment. Was it covid related (recall, they said that specific indictment / raid had to be executed quicker than they had liked and implied other shoes may drop.)

I wonder how this will impact the list of usual suspects once things open up. Certainly another variable for us players to navigate.

billk5300s

You bring up an excellent point.  The post indictment state of racing is looking very different.  You can’t key on these trainers with magical powers anymore.  Personally I believe it’s a good thing.  I’ve actually done better with my horizontals post indictment.  The payoffs have been much better.  Anyone else noticing this or am I off base?

TreadHead

In a similar vein.....

The 9 in the last at GP today (R10 on 5/10) caught my attention for the precipitous performance drop in the 2 races after moving out of Navarro\'s barn post-bust.

I\'m guessing there are other examples, some of the easiest bet-against propositions out there.