Who amongst us is surprised?

[JohnTChance]

Question when the feds get super-vet Kristian Rhein in a room:

Q: “Mr. Rhein, can we see the vet bills for the horses you treated such as MUCHO MACHO MAN (who won the 2017 BC Classic) and MIND YOUR BISCUITS?

[trackjohn]

Like I\'ve said... just the tip of the iceberg... Just wait until the vets start flipping... THAT\'S when things will get interesting...

[wrongly1]

https://www.wdrb.com/news/disqualified-derby-winner-maximum-security-s-trainer-among-facing-federal/article_f8e89a1e-6212-11ea-9dad-23a4d61d3e65.html

Another intercepted call includes Servis talking to veterinarian Kristian Rhein about plans to mask drugs given to Maximum Security before the 2019 Pegasus Stakes.

\"They don\'t even have a test for it,\" Rhein is heard telling Servis. \". . . There\'s no test for it in America.\"

[rezlegal]

Were it up to me I would encourage the Saudi’s to seek extradition of Servis and Navarro.

[wrongly1]

In response to a number of media inquiries, FBI Louisville will confirm it is conducting judicially authorized activity with @US_FDA
 at Tailor Made Compounding, 200 Moore Drive, Nicholasville, KY.

[trackjohn]

I would start a GoFundMe page to help pay for their flights to Dubai!!

[Strike]

rezlegal Wrote:
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> Were it up to me I would encourage the Saudi’s
> to seek extradition of Servis and Navarro.

A California-based Racing Stable is also mentioned. The owner\'s name is not but it probably is not difficult to figure out who it is. I won\'t speculate here. Pretty damaging comments. I am surprised they aren\'t going after him at this time -- maybe trying to get him to \"sing\" or else. Pretty ugly stuff.

[Roman]

https://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,117835,117835#msg-117835
this didn\'t age well
this whole story has hints of Eric Ledford at the Big M in the 2000\'s

[Silver Charm]

Hahaha.

•What new evidence did they gather in the last 9 days?

•Why not grab the guy as he was ready to fly over there? To Dubai that is.
 
•Also what did Coolmore pay for their 50%? Of a $16k claimer?

• Servis is innocent until proven guilty. This looks like a John DeLorean set up

[Bet Twice]

As I clearly said, I wasn’t implying they were cheating.  I was simply pointing out that the timing was interesting.  Did they aid in the investigation  in some way?  Did they know the shoe was about to drop and know the sport would be severely tarnished?

[JR]

I don’t believe there’s a trainer making a living in this game today that doesn’t have a trunk full of meds.

[JR]

Not surprised about the findings just surprised at how long it took for them to get caught.

[Boscar Obarra]

People have trunks full of meds.  Ever see the nonsense that fills medicine cabinets ?

  The trick is how and when they are used. As well as what.

  The guys pissed in our eye and told us it was raining.

  And the folks in charge of keeping the game clean , took out umbrellas.

[JR]

I really doubt they bother to load a lot of nonsense in their trunks.

[richiebee]

Bet:

So you are saying that you weren\'t implying they were cheating, but maybe
implying that they were relators/whistleblowers aka \"Rats\"?

I think the only coincidence is that the two trainers announced their
retirement at about the same time. Gary Contessa\'s wife is sick. Gary has been
a perennial 10% winning trainer for decades now. He\'s profited from some sales
of horses where he has acted as agent. Reading the article about his
retirement, it also seems as if he would welcome the opportunity to work on the
\"frontside\", in a racing office, and I am sure as always, there are plenty of
openings in the Stronach Organization. I do not know if Gary Contessa would
voluntarily come forward as a whistleblower. If anything, if he knew that some
dominoes were about to fall, Gary might have hung on to his license a bit
longer, thinking that he might be able to pick up some owners whose trainers
are headed for the penitentiary.

As to KMac, I first met him in 1983 when we were both grooming horses for Del
Carroll III at Churchill Downs. We actually lived in the same \"Manufactured
Housing Complex\" (aka \"trailer park\") near Standiford Airport. Not sure that
anyone has had the success as both a trainer and jock\'s agent (Chris Antley)
that Kiaran has. KMac is a Lexington kid who grew up loving the sport, but can
not be certain that he would come forward with information. I\'m thinking one of
the compounders/distributors or the mother/daughter smuggling/sales team
supplied the information that lead to the \"big fish\" (Servis/Navarro) getting caught in the net.

To me, most heinous is the fact that Servis/Navarro felt secure enough in their
teflon coating that they openly talked about PEDs on the phone. I guess they
never watched \"Goodfellas\"?

Servis/Navarro won plenty of races. Predicting that soon there will be
civil/criminal actions to \"claw back\" purse monies won by runners trained by
\"Servarro\" (if this endeavor is not undertaken by stewards at various tracks,
based on the aforementioned (prior post) retroactive testing of frozen
samples), and there will of course be the inevitable class action by
horseplayers who can document losses in races which were, for lack of a better
word, \"rigged\".