Travers 150 Pick 5

[FrankD.]

Ask Toppled ?

[swale]

Practical Joke won both races 2 and 3 years ago.

[Silver Charm]

Yes he did. And the Champagne. A very rare Triple.

[Fairmount1]

Toppled:

Closing day and mandatory payout day for the Empire. Your theory didn\'t hold up on this one.  (Leg 1 a 3-5 single to just add on the front end of a p5 to increase the payout.  Even 50 cents worth of the p6 let\'s say by simply adding the 3-5 and paying for an equal denomination wouldn\'t even get you to the p5 payout).  

1, Dr. Devera\'s Way.  
$.50 p5, 65,846.50
$.20 p6, 23,794.70.

I have the others also. This was the rule not the exception even on today\'s mandatory/carryover p6 sequence for the horses in the finale compared to the p5.

**Note**--I know you likely can\'t even play a 50 cent pick 6 but wanted to attempt to compare apples to apples here.  Mathcapper can possibly equate this much faster and clearer than I as well as correct my mistakes in statistical analysis here.  But I don\'t want to put more on his plate.

[Mathcapper]

Fairmount1 Wrote:
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> Toppled:
>
> Closing day and mandatory payout day for the
> Empire. Your theory didn\'t hold up on this one.
> (Leg 1 a 3-5 single to just add on the front end
> of a p5 to increase the payout.  Even 50 cents
> worth of the p6 let\'s say by simply adding the 3-5
> and paying for an equal denomination wouldn\'t even
> get you to the p5 payout).  
>
> 1, Dr. Devera\'s Way.  
> $.50 p5, 65,846.50
> $.20 p6, 23,794.70.
>
> I have the others also. This was the rule not the
> exception even on today\'s mandatory/carryover p6
> sequence for the horses in the finale compared to
> the p5.
>
> **Note**--I know you likely can\'t even play a 50
> cent pick 6 but wanted to attempt to compare
> apples to apples here.  Mathcapper can possibly
> equate this much faster and clearer than I as well
> as correct my mistakes in statistical analysis
> here.  But I don\'t want to put more on his plate.


No worries Richie - I track the payouts every day (it only takes me ~30s) so I\'ve got them readily available.

In today\'s sequence the Pick 5 came back quite generous - the $65,846.50 payout was over 3.6 times (+265%) the equivalent win parlay of $18,058.40.

The $23,794.70 Empire 6, on the other hand, came back surprising light for a mandatory payout day. Instead of paying on the order of 4 or 5 times the equivalent win parlay like it typically does, it \"only\" paid around twice the equivalent win parlay (+106%) of $11,557, which is closer to what it usually looks like on a non-mandatory day.

BTW, for anyone interested, I got word back yesterday from the boss of the boss of the guy I talked to at NYRA Bets on the subject of Empire 6 bet size as it relates to lone winning tickets.

As I suspected, if a player puts in a base ticket that\'s larger than the $.20 minimum, say a $1 caveman ticket like 3x1x5x3x4x4 and that player turns out to be the lone winner, he DOES NOT get the jackpot, it counts as 5 separate $.20 tickets.

So if you\'re playing any combinations that look to have the potential to possibly take down the pool, make SURE you only have a $.20 ticket on those combinations, otherwise you\'re essentially playing against yourself and it could end up costing you a LOT of money.

[johnnym]

Wow That would piss me off if I found that out after the fact.
Great info thank Rocky