While I was away...

[bluechip21]

I don’t think you were insinuating it, but in the event i came off that way, i wasn’t redboarding. The only redboard I have to share is that I missed both. I wish I had those horses, they seemed so freaking obvious after the fact. Especially with that chad horse with the suspect soundness. Believe me, if I had hit either of those p5s, I wouldn’t come here to gloat about it, I think my track record here shows for that. As for the weaver horse, I can’t say I’m surprised he was that favorite, because I don’t know who else you make it (certainly not the Nevin off of one good diet effort after 20+ turf races). 9-1 on that horse was a gift to whoever had it however.

[hellersorr]

As has been pointed out many times here, betting on a horse with a big PARX figure to repeat that number in NY is quite frequently a mug\'s game.

[dglass2232]

@BlueChip- I\'m the guilty  redboarder.  I Was referring to my own post. Best.

[dglass2232]

I concur and it was a desperation heave. Doug FLutie style. That said,  I would not have even attempted if it was a Parx trainer. Nevin has had success getting horses to run big figs in NY.

[JohnTChance]

Another great thing about that Nevin horse (off the Philly 2) was that NYRA’s gabbermeister Andy Serling (a notorious sheets and Thorograph hater/disser?) pooh-poohed it prior to the race. Always warms my heart when that happens.

[Topcat]

hellersorr Wrote:
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> As has been pointed out many times here, betting
> on a horse with a big PARX figure to repeat that
> number in NY is quite frequently a mug\'s game.


Truth, alas . . .

[Topcat]

richiebee Wrote:
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> Olden Days:
>
>
> Recently(?), NYRA seems to have nudged the scale
> up a couple of pounds so that the top weight in
> overnight races is 125 or 124, where it used to be
> 122. For years H. Allen Jerkens was a vocal
> opponent of any adjustment of this sort (kind of
> surprising in that “The Chief” employed some
> legendary plus sized exercise riders).



Many trainers HATE any added weight, even if applied equitably . . . D. Wayne, prominent, among them . . .

[TGJB]

Context matters. As has been pointed out, it wasn\'t trained by one of the jump-up local Parx trainers, and it was also the only dirt figure for a couple of years-- may just be a dirt horse. Al put him up in the Analysis.

And the situation was, a) he was a price ,b) a 3 point bounce and he was better than even money to win, c) a 5 point bounce and he was maybe a 2-1 shot.

[Boscar Obarra]

Mr Serling also dismissed that 13-1 winner the other day, focusing on a recent claim of 8,000, as if the horse would be embarrassed to win an allowance race after running so cheap .  Wolf quickly interjected that such a quick dismissal by Andy was a good sign for the horse.   Apparently, this is a workable angle.

 Won by 5 like a stakes horse. There was embarrassment , but it  wasn\'t by the horse

[BitPlayer]

Dating myself a bit here, but I remember when Sundays were dark days (thanks to New York\'s blue laws).  What sticks in my mind is a television commercial featuring a guy who had come to the track on a Sunday and discovered it was dark, \"so I ripped up a hundred dollar bill and went home.\"

If memory serves, the Spa was the \"Graveyard of Favorites\", not the current \"Graveyard of Champions,\" in those days.  I still think the former sounds more appealing.

[Rich Curtis]

\"Mr Serling also dismissed that 13-1 winner the other day,\"

This would be a pretty good opening to a parody of racing message boards.

[adelphi]

Considering the dark clouds hovering around horse racing these days, maybe we should avoid using morbid phrases such as \"graveyard of favorites/champions\", \"dead-heat\", \"dead last\",\"whipping a dead horse\", \"whipping and driving\", etc.

[johnnym]

🤦‍â™,️

[jerry]

I guess it all depends on what flavor you like. It’s casino ugly to me.

I’m not opposed to change. But there’s good change and bad change. I don’t like what I see happening up there. It all started to fade when they scrapped the old tote boards and had horses dancing the Macarena between races.

[jerry]

You’re before my time. I still have my Graveyard of Favorites tee shirt. But I’m wondering if the introduction of better handicapping products hasn’t caused the turn around. Back then there weren’t even Beyer figures available. You had to make your own pars.