was watching TVG last night,Vic Stauffer put in quite a plug for THOROGRAPH, said if Beyer numbers were mustangs Then TG numbers were MASERATI\'S ,even said we should all thank Jerry Brown for these numbers
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drbillym: Vic is now putting out his picks on weekends and does rely heavily on TG.  But he also incorporates a lot of knowledge accumulated over years of experience.  Insight you won\'t find elsewhere. For example, his discussion with Baffert that led him to know how good McKenzie was. I know I sound like a commercial, but I made a couple good scores on his selections opening day.  Checkout the archives on his website-race 9 tri key paid $325 for .50.
Jerry I apologize if I am promoting a competing product, but they can be used in tandem.