Navarro YouTube Video

Started by jbelfior, August 20, 2017, 08:12:06 AM

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Fairmount1

Given people on twitter (posting links to my post) and on here have mistaken the first paragraph of my post as supportive of Jorge Navarro, let me clarify.  Long time readers of the board should know I have little to no belief that Jorge Navarro is on the \"up and up.\"

I\'ve long posted my disdain for medication and drug problems in the sport.  Certainly, in this instance I\'m not impressed with Jorge Navarro and the video.  

See these Jorge related posts if you doubt my earlier post in this string was anything except Sarcasm entirely in the first paragraph.  Please note these posts contain sarcasm as well but they should clear up what I think of this guy:

https://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,101551,106883#msg-106883

https://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,101551,101700#msg-101700

Boscar Obarra

TheBull Wrote:
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> A poster commented that he was told that the one
> guy in the video was, in fact, Navarro. So.....in
> English......I highly doubt the overweight
> hispanic man in the video asking \"Is that Navarro
> at 2/1??\" is actually Navarro himself. Seeing as
> how no one else in the video resembles Navarro, I
> doubt Navarro was in said video....making it bad
> information. Enough English for you wise ass?


 Not Navarro ?  Wow. Post of the year!

 I\'m willing to entertain the idea it might not be him. Here\'s a picture compare off the video and a stock shot .  Not perfect, very close, but if it\'s not him, they are taking an awfully  long time to disavow.



Navarro or Not Varro

APny

You guys sound so silly.....The video is def of Navarro.  If you\'re on this board I\'d think you\'d know who racings major players are.....criminals or not. The owner who\'s yapping is also a regular at MP who is regularly drunk and slurring around the track. The sad part is people will trash talk Navarro but give Baffert a pass, even though what Bafferts done this year is far worse and ruining the game on a larger scale.

Boscar Obarra

Thanks for playing the home game. over 200 views and you\'re the only one that posted. Typical engagement rate.

breakage1

Thanks for posting the video.

My thoughts are along the lines of water is wet and I am skeptical that any bookie is taking on $20K of exposure out of the tote except from proven losers.


Boscar Obarra

Was wondering.  why we didn\'t hear anything.

Boscar Obarra

TheBull Wrote:
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> A poster commented that he was told that the one
> guy in the video was, in fact, Navarro. So.....in
> English......I highly doubt the overweight
> hispanic man in the video asking \"Is that Navarro
> at 2/1??\" is actually Navarro himself. Seeing as
> how no one else in the video resembles Navarro, I
> doubt Navarro was in said video....making it bad
> information. Enough English for you wise ass?


Apology accepted.

philywheel

Thats the penalty for bragging about cheating? WTF

philywheel

BB

philywheel Wrote:
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> Thats the penalty for bragging about cheating?
> WTF
>
> philywheel

3rd paragraph of the article. That is the maximum fine that NJ stewards can levy. They asked the state to levy heftier additional fines.

richiebee

BB Wrote:
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> philywheel Wrote:
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> -----
> > Thats the penalty for bragging about cheating?
> > WTF
> >
> > philywheel
>
> 3rd paragraph of the article. That is the maximum
> fine that NJ stewards can levy. They asked the
> state to levy heftier additional fines.

Tiz true. But I would hope that the two men who are responsible for running
Monmouth, attorney Dennis Drazin and Robert Kulina, who literally grew up at
Monmouth Park and has worked there his entire adult life, would approach the NJ
Sports and Exposition Authority (owners of Monmouth) and, in conjunction with
the NJSEA, consider either banning these two mucksacks, or at least look to
severely curtailing Navarro\'s 2018 stall allotment.

Let Navarro stable and race at NYRA tracks. Let us see if he can maintain his
41% strike rate when not competing against the \"Mom and Pop\" outfits that
stable and race at Monmouth.

If Kulina and Drazin continue to tolerate this conduct, it might be time to
begin calling the Oceanport track \"Monmouth Parx\" or \"Parx North\'

philywheel

I always said there is a million ways to lose a race and only 1 way to win
make that a million and 1, I need these 2 bozo\'s laughing at me when I lose,
very discouraging that they are allowed to get away with fixing races with only a slap on the wrist and not permanent disbarment(they should be made a example of)

philywheel

richiebee


richiebee

More good news:

In an article published in DRF this morning, Maryland officials stated that
they would not not accept entries from Jorge Navarro. The immense Richiebee
bankroll will be visiting Laurel via Bed Room Downs on Saturday in recognition
of the Maryland Jockey Club\'s good judgment.

In some very dismaying news, also in the article (which I am for some reason
not able to link here), Dennis Drazin, attorney and horse owner, CEO of Darley,
which conducts racing at Monmouth Park, has thrown his support behind Navarro,
stating that Navarro will be welcome back to the Shore in 2018.

So as far as I\'m concerned, and I am a minnow, not a whale:

1) Looking forward to Laurel Racing Saturday;
2) Great work by folks in Indiana denying Navarro the right to enter;
3) I will not be betting a single shekel at Mth until Navarro is excluded;
4) I will wait for other racing jurisdictions to \"Do The Right Thing\" regarding
Navarro and sanction him for conduct unbecoming
5) Turo Escalante is still my favorite horse trainer.

TGJB

I have to say that I disagree with this. Yeah, he\'s an ass, and a fine for what\'s in the video is about right. But what the tracks are doing here is demagoguery, wrapping themselves in righteous indignation. If you want to bar the guy, catch him doing what he\'s obviously doing-- which means doing things they don\'t want to, like spending money. Until they are freezing samples and retesting them, until they are publishing all test results, in detail, on a timely basis, they don\'t mean business. I\'ve been saying that here for ten years

Earlier this year we found out that Oaklawn BEGAN testing for TC02 halfway through the effin meet. In 2017. That\'s a f-----g joke. And we have a bunch of other clueless morons who want to ban Lasix. They\'re all full of crap. No accolades from this quarter for bombastic posturing.
TGJB