The other board is giving some of attention to Girvin.  It seems he must be much faster with their numbers.  One of the slowest with Thoro - but a nice enough pattern.

jbelfior: Last worked on 4/15. Scheduled work today was pushed to this Friday. That\'s an \"unlucky\" 13 day gap.

Ya think Mike Smith\'s agent is on the phone with Dale Romans yet?

Good Luck,
Joe B.

ajkreider: Leaving draw issues aside, I think he gets roughly same trip as, and has a similar pattern to, McCraken and Practical Joke - except he\'s slower.

Wrongly: Something is up with Girvin.  Sharp moved him from trackside to Keeneland over the weekend and now misses that work.

jerry: Reminds me of another California shipper coming in off a string of 4s - Arrogate.

TheBull: Hysterically Brilliant!

FrankD.: I\'m thinking Girvin must be Richiebee\'s secret Derby horse. He didn\'t want it to get it that he and Arrogate had twin sheets!!! You\'re a slick one Bee

India here I come. maybe Jimbo can get us an audience with the Dalai Mush?

RICH: That is not correct, pattern of girvin is no way the same as those 2

boston: If the other numbers have him two points faster in his last race or maybe his last two races - this one looks a lot like McCraken- but in the 20-1 range.

RICH: maybe on rags, they are similar, but not TG

TheBull: On rags not even close to the same pattern as McCracken......and really not all that similar to PJ either

ajkreider: They\'re \"similar\", in that all three are sitting on a pair-ish top.

jbrown007: Don\'t have the sheets but may compare more to Gun Runner who had a terrific trip last year to run third. Highly doubt Girvin has the tactical speed to get nearly as good a trip. This horse runs 6-7th.

jbelfior: Except this one is out of Tale of Ekati. I\'m not a pedigree worshipper, but i do consider.

Good Luck,
Joe B.

jerry: I try to respect pedigree but most of the Derby runners this year have high DIs and CDs except for the slow ones. Girvin\'s dosage profile is better than most. That\'s not a reason to like him. Just putting him in context pedigree-wise.