My Lessons from TG Belmont Seminar

[nathan.prather@gmail.com]

I was on vacation due to time restraints I broke my golden rule:

\"Never let a someone talk you off a horse, ONLY let them talk you onto a horse\"

I didn\'t have time to dig deep into the card and used Seminar to trim down my Pick 4 starting in R8 Just a Game.  Unfortunately the Seminar was way, way off:

Examples:

Just a Game = \"Wide Open race but we are totally against Celestine\"

Met Mile = \"Frosted a very beatable favorite\"  = won by 14 lengths

Manhattan = Considered tossing Flintshire b/c of draw.  Flintshire in the 30 Post Position would have beaten this group.  I stayed up all night and did my homework so I stuck to my guns and was right.

Blemont Stakes = Creator. \"If he runs back to his top, might get him in the exotics\"
.  

To give credit the Seminar was right to speak well about Governor Malibu and Destin.  If the rabbit Gettysburg didn\'t block Malibu he could have won.

Like others I should have downgraded Stradivari for coming back so soon.  Lasix dehydrates horses need longer to recover.

Hopefully I won\'t get greedy and make this mistake in the future for the 100th time:
\"Never let a someone talk you off a horse, ONLY let them talk you onto a horse\"

[jimbo66]

Nathan,

Just wondering, which of the following two things you said is true:

You didn\'t have time to dig into the card.

or

You stayed up all night and did your homework to come up with Flintshire.  

If the second one is true, you wasted an awful lot of time analyzing one horse....

My wife picked up the form off the floor and put it in the recycle bin and during that 7 seconds she called Flintshire a likely winner.....

Staying up all night to come up with Flintshire and blaming TG for the rest is akin to spending 58 minutes of the one hour test period putting your name on the paper.....  (although I think I did that once on a differential calculus exam..)

Jim

[FrankD.]

Which psychiatric center were you vacationing at? Maybe PETA can investigate it if they kept you up all night looking at PP\'s of 3/5 shots!

[TGJB]

You do realize people here actually GOT the seminar, right? And the ones who didn\'t will see/hear it when we put it up, like always? And they\'ll see that the 4 horses we said to use in the Manhattan made up the super?

Yes, we did not like Frosted or Celestine. Did okay in the Acorn, which you somehow neglected to mention. And we had some other negative opinions-- Exaggerator and Justin. You forgot to mention those, too.

[boardedup]

jimbo66 Wrote:
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> Nathan,
>
> Just wondering, which of the following two things
> you said is true:
>
> You didn\'t have time to dig into the card.
>
> or
>
> You stayed up all night and did your homework to
> come up with Flintshire.  
>
> If the second one is true, you wasted an awful lot
> of time analyzing one horse....
>
> My wife picked up the form off the floor and put
> it in the recycle bin and during that 7 seconds
> she called Flintshire a likely winner.....
>
> Staying up all night to come up with Flintshire
> and blaming TG for the rest is akin to spending 58
> minutes of the one hour test period putting your
> name on the paper.....  (although I think I did
> that once on a differential calculus exam..)
>
> Jim


Was going to say something, but this covers it. Solid Gold, one of the better posts I\'ve read online ever.

[TGJB]

Actually, Jimbo, I think I can tell you which it was. Nathan runs a handicapping website (which is not going to get free advertising here) that makes picks. So either a) he DID handicap, b) he didn\'t and just resells our opinions, or c) he didn\'t have time to handicap Belmont day (!!!) but put out his own picks anyway.

I have enough faith in human nature to think it was a), and that he\'s just being a jerk.

[nathan.prather@gmail.com]

Wow, glad to get these kind of responses.  Giving me some real insight to the people behind the Thoro-Graph product.

I simply stated that I should never let anyone talk me off a horse.

All Night Explanation:  Sorry for the confusion.  I spent an hour on Manhattan.  Rest of the night spent watching replays of Belmont stakes and the other races.

I stayed up all night watching replays handicapping the Belmont Stakes, spent an hour or so on the Manhattan.  

I was hoping for a much more professional response from Jerry, something like this:  Sorry, I was way off with my picks for this seminar.  Wasn\'t expecting to be attacked.  Very unprofessional, and I won\'t be buying an Seminars in the future.

All the best!
Nathan

[nathan.prather@gmail.com]

Wow, that really hurts my feelings.

All the best!
Nathan

[TGJB]

Good. Stay off my board.

[nathan.prather@gmail.com]

Sorry you feel that way but Will do.  All the best!
Nathan