Post Mortem

Started by ringato3, May 21, 2016, 08:23:13 PM

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boardedup

The fact that Lani ran at all after how he acted before the race is crazy/impressive- not sure which?

He was an absolute hand full, they clearly had to change the saddling procedure, keep him off by himself, it was a 30 minute fight.  He seemed like he absolutely hated everyone and everything yesterday.

Gerard

It\'s possible, always better to be there in person.

Leamas57

That\'s good information, thanks. I kept looking for him on the screen and that is, as you suggest, noteworthy. Too much ginseng bad for stallion?

They\'ve been grooming this guy like a bonsai tree and maybe that\'s not what he wants to be.

Leamas

FrankD.

That\'s funny you weren\'t there but \" the 5-7 mph winds had no effect on the equine.\"

WTF was I thinking 22 years of pouring concrete and doing roofs using my own money canceling pours and pulling crews off roofs when it was raining sideways? The wind was only 5-7 MPH!!! BRILLIANT. Think of the overtime I could have saved?

Gerard

Looking at the replay and checking the conditions of the flags around the course during the race replay lead me to believe the weather beacon data is correct, moderate winds that should not have affected the runners. It\'s always better to be there, but I can also tell when a flag is blowing sideways.

jerry

Don\'t cut him. He\'s got a lot of good genes in him.

meatloaf

On 3:
Looked to me as if Gutierrez tried to duplicate American Pharaoh\'s run last year in similar conditions:  gun to front, relax, finish.  For whatever reason, Nyquist wouldn\'t relax.  I read somewhere that these were trainer instructions, to avoid traffic.  Given the toll of the first half mile, he ran a gutsy stretch.  But there\'s no doubt that he\'s no American Pharaoh--not as fast and not as tractable.

NormandyInvasion

meatloaf Wrote:
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> On 3:
> Looked to me as if Gutierrez tried to duplicate
> American Pharaoh\'s run last year in similar
> conditions:  gun to front, relax, finish.  For
> whatever reason, Nyquist wouldn\'t relax.  I read
> somewhere that these were trainer instructions, to
> avoid traffic.  Given the toll of the first half
> mile, he ran a gutsy stretch.  But there\'s no
> doubt that he\'s no American Pharaoh--not as fast
> and not as tractable.

He didn\'t relax because he had another horse at his throat latch the entire time.  The one time AP had a horse similarly at his, he lost.  

He should\'ve taken back when he had the chance at the first turn.  The hellbent for the lead tactics cost them the race, not a better horse.

T Severini

NormandyInvasion Wrote:
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> He should\'ve taken back when he had the chance at
> the first turn.  The hellbent for the lead tactics
> cost them the race, not a better horse.


Viewed the race similarly. Nyquist was dead game, but Uncle Lino took a big enough piece of him to leave him vulnerable. That head to head was a ding dong thing of some beauty.

Thought the early fractions were too severe for either of them to endure, but Lino\'s fade is likely at least in part to a tendon injury that has his future in doubt.

Really felt I had a wicked coup going until it was clear the speed duel was official and I agree it was Gutierrez who stole my wager, though a horse can break down for any reason.

I\'m high on the Mo\'s and Uncle Lino is very closely bred to Shackleford on the female side and I had fond memories of that Preakness.

Its a long T.C. dry spell, but something says the breakthrough will offset the pain.

miff

Another service reporting Preakness early pace fastest they ever recorded in 25 years.
miff

RICH

I know one thing that wind was blowing right into the clubhouse turn tent, I was there with a bunch of friends and the wife, the ladies had a rough time with it, it wasn\'t so much a straight on wind but a wind coming from the top of the end of the backstretch diagonally right across to the clubhouse turn, pretty strong at times

johnnym

A lot of Gutierrez bad ride talking on Byk this AM,Beyer calling it the worse jock ride since the Bid and Smarty.

Topcat

johnnym Wrote:
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> A lot of Gutierrez bad ride talking on Byk this
> AM,Beyer calling it the worse jock ride since the
> Bid and Smarty.


O\'Neill already took full responsibility.  Kid rode to orders.

rhagood

Exactly, stable rider just like the old days.  If he told him to hold the horse he would, extremely loyal family style operation.  O\'Neill made a bad tactical call, won the battle but lost the war.  He is not worried about getting fired either and they all feel bad for the horse himself they hold in high regard. I thought he would let any speed go by and get outside, normally the case when you feel you are have the best horse, giving up ground loss for a more comfortable position. That is what worked in the Derby, the race was won by the first turn just as it was lost by the first turn Saturday.

johnnym

Heard him take the heat,maybe a bit over confidant going in.