2nd time in 4 years months worth of work goes out the door in post draw

TheBull · April 30, 2014, 03:31:25 PM

Exactly. I\'d be stunned if VIT was higher than 15-1 to 18-1 range. I think the real decision with VIT will come based on what Harry\'s Holiday and Uncle Sigh do to his outside. Essentially from the rail, you have to make a right turn almost, which can be difficult when posts 2 and 3 are not doing the same. Where does the room come from? Worth noting that Maker trains the 2 post also, which could be some benefit pre race. Just trying to put some water in the glass to make it at least half full for you Jimbo. I have a future on him at juicy odds so, not exactly saying I\'m rooting against it. Good luck!!!

alang · April 30, 2014, 04:09:00 PM

all it takes its one or two not ready and don\'t get away like they should and can change the whole completion of the race.

TGJB · April 30, 2014, 04:15:01 PM

Rail was fine today.

elkurzhal · April 30, 2014, 04:21:03 PM

last in the gate is probably a very good thing for Wicked Strong, and you probably picked up 2-3 points on the price.

jbelfior · April 30, 2014, 06:11:57 PM

Jim:
Glad for you. WS had no shot from any post IMO. Passed a bunch of tired colts in the Wood.

Good Luck,
Joe B

Bigredgoer · April 30, 2014, 07:09:27 PM

FWIW..@DRFGrening ...\"Jimmy Jerkens said Edgar Prado, who rode WS once, texted him \"perfect\" when he drew post 20\"...

Lost Cause · April 30, 2014, 07:16:16 PM

Bigredgoer Wrote:
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> FWIW..@DRFGrening ...\"Jimmy Jerkens said Edgar
> Prado, who rode WS once, texted him \"perfect\" when
> he drew post 20\"...

Perfect must mean something really bad in Spanish.

either that or it\'s an F.U. from Prado because they took him off the horse

FrankD. · April 30, 2014, 10:02:14 PM

Really???

I would have bet dollars to donuts you would have X\'s on Lightning Angel in the 6th and Oldwick in the 8th. Looked like both sank in quick sand on the fence.

jerry · April 30, 2014, 10:43:19 PM

Medal Count\'s sheet reminds me a lot of Charismatic\'s. Ran a big new top a couple of weeks before the derby and paired it.

Ollie · May 01, 2014, 12:13:42 AM

Or, maybe it means, being outside they won\'t be spending a couple of hours cleaning all the crap of the horse\'s eyes from the kickback, which they also felt affected the horse besides the gash, in his Holy Bull race.Plus, having tactical speed, Maragh can look for a comfortable spot to track without being too wide, and not giving up too much ground, since they are not all going to be on the lead, at the same time, are they?

Lost Cause · May 01, 2014, 05:13:47 AM

Ollie Wrote:
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> Or, maybe it means, being outside they won\'t be
> spending a couple of hours cleaning all the crap
> of the horse\'s eyes from the kickback, which they
> also felt affected the horse besides the gash, in
> his Holy Bull race.Plus, having tactical speed,
> Maragh can look for a comfortable spot to track
> without being too wide, and not giving up too much
> ground, since they are not all going to be on the
> lead, at the same time, are they?

Year after year I see thoughts on the outside posts and the inside posts and how it will be overcome and every year I watch those horses go 6 wide or get killed on the inside as the whole field tries to come over for position. Unless you are a Big Brown layover I just toss em and let them beat me. Those draws are brutal and there are enough things to overcome.