Does anyone have 1 1/8 Post Pos. stats for CD/Oaks?

[toppled]

My pick in the Oaks is On Fire Baby, but I\'m trying to find statistics for the rail in 1 1/8 races & the Oaks itself since it was changed to 1 1/8.  
Does anyone have any stats?  I know it\'s not like 1 1/4 in the Derby where the rail horse has to avoid hitting the rail after leaving the chute, but I don\'t know if it\'s a plus or a minus going a mile & one eight.

[miff]

Topp,

Dont know stats but rail big edge at 1 1/8th.


Post/Horse/Jockey/Odds
1. On Fire Baby/Joe Johnson/4-1
2. Grace Hall/Javier Castellano/5-2
3. Summer Applause/Garrett Gomez/15-1
4. Eden's Moon/Martin Garcia/12-1
5. Hard Not to Like/Robby Albarado/20-1
6. Broadway's Alibi/John Velazquez/4-1
7. Sacristy/Mike Smith/50-1
8. Jemima's Pearl/Joe Talamo/10-1
9. Believe You Can/Rosie Napravnik/10-1
10. And Why Not/Julien Leparoux/15-1
11. Karlovy Vary/James Graham/20-1
12. Colonial Empress/Corey Nakatani/50-1
13. Amie's Dini/Jon Court/10-1
14. Yara/Jesus Castanon/30-1
AE- Oaks Lilly/Rafael Bejarano/50-1

[toppled]

Thanks, I was hoping for a middle post but you helped renew my already brimming confidence in OFB.  I couldn\'t believe that I couldn\'t find anything on an Internet search & it\'s too early in the meet for Formulator to give me any data.

[jack72906]

Toppled,

The Brisnet PPs have surface/distance/pp stats listed on the last page of each race. Good luck...

[Dave]

Last spring meet at 9f:

15 Races
------Rail--------- 1-3---------4-7---------- 8+
IV----1.04--------- 1.21--------.58-------- 1.75
%Win--13%---------- 16% --------7%---------  17%
I believe the spring was off because of the heavy rains during Derby week, which killed the rail for a stretch.

Fall meet
8 Races
------Rail--------- 1-3---------4-7---------- 8+
IV----2.03--------- 1.02--------1.06-------- .78
%Win--25%---------- 12% --------13%---------  8%

[alm]

Mike

Isn\'t the important question whether it\'s kinder to front runners vs closers?

Most likely the advantage goes to the front runners on that track; not so meaningful for a horse that has to circle other horses, regardless of the ground saving in the early part of the race.

But then, there\'s Calvin who hardly ever leaves the rail if he gets it early.

Al

[toppled]

The BRIS stats were a good start.  Eventually, DRF put the Friday card up & I was able to go back to last year\'s fall meet where with limited data & shorter fields I found the rail was 2/8.  Formulator only let me go back 1 meet.  
I\'m looking forward to the Oaks card & the analysis, but I\'m guessing it won\'t be available until after the seminar hits so that the Oaks writeup coincides with the seminar.  I\'ll be very antsy for the next day & 1/2.

[Dave]

Driving me nuts til I get the seminar and the data for both days.   I just happened to have the Brisnet\'s saved from the BC day that had the spring stats.

[miff]

Al,

It depends on how the track is playing.Two years in a row, the Oaks and Derby cards were run on tracks that were not kind to speed(dead rail one or two days also)

Pretty far out but speed/up close dominating first five races at CD today with a fairly glib surface.

Mike

[jack72906]

Dave,

Any chance you could post those stats or pm them to me? Got a virus on the pc a month ago and lost all PPs from last year...

Thanks

***Check that..found a jump drive with the past performances with last spring\'s numbers.***