Dead Turf Rail on Derby Day

Caradoc · May 06, 2009, 06:49:24 AM

Why did Lemon Chiffon and Proudinsky get the dead rail notation, but Visit and Court Vision did not? All of them had 1w1w trips.

covelj70 · May 06, 2009, 06:59:37 AM

I will tell you why, because I bet the crap out of Lemon Chifon and Proudinsky and I didn\'t bet the other two

TGJB · May 06, 2009, 07:57:47 AM

The course was drying out and speeding up some, didn\'t seem to make a difference late in the day. Only reason I did it with such a small sample is that turf horses are so consistent-- would not have done it with a dirt rail.

Caradoc · May 06, 2009, 08:04:19 AM

Okay, but why would one horse in a race get the notation, but another horse in the same race running in the same path not get it?

TGJB · May 06, 2009, 08:58:49 AM

One spent more time inside than the other-- Court Vision swung out turning for home.

Silver Charm · May 06, 2009, 11:21:17 AM

Caradoc Wrote:
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> Why did Lemon Chiffon and Proudinsky get the dead
> rail notation,

I feel a lot better now. I had BIG MONEY on both those two......

Caradoc · May 06, 2009, 11:43:59 AM

So was the dead rail in the stretch only? Meaning, if you tipped out at the top of the stretch, no notation, even if you had run on the rail for the first 7f?

HP · May 06, 2009, 12:36:53 PM

This reminds me of an old horseplayer joke.

\"The figures were right and I had it nailed, but the horses got it wrong!\"

Maybe Jerry can do a Mid-Day Derby Analysis Supplement where we can log on and get his take on the first few races on the card and make any necessary adjustments...

colt · May 06, 2009, 01:16:31 PM

\"The figures were right and I had it nailed, but the horses got it wrong!\"...nice...still lmao.....

TGAB · May 06, 2009, 03:43:12 PM

JB is in Toronto at Woodbine, right now. Springsteen beckons. He\'ll respond fully to Caradoc when he returns. The response starts \"It depends\". Stay tuned.

Caradoc · May 13, 2009, 04:16:57 PM

I\'m tuned. Proudinsky, who got the \"X\" designation, is entered on Saturday. Was there a dead turf rail only in the stretch on Derby Day?

TGJB · May 13, 2009, 04:30:27 PM

Tomorrow, I\'m leaving.

spa · May 13, 2009, 08:25:32 PM

Mike Smith never left the rail on Lemon C. What piece of work. Is he going to **** up the derby ride?

Lost Cause · May 13, 2009, 11:03:13 PM

spa Wrote:
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> Mike Smith never left the rail on Lemon C. What
> piece of work. Is he going to **** up the
> derby ride?

Yes, but to be fair, I don\'t think anyone could ride that horse and bring him home a winner in this race.

TGJB · May 14, 2009, 09:03:10 AM

In this case it looks like horses that were on the rail around the turn and stayed inside were the ones who suffered. There is no hard and fast rule, and I\'m sure we miss some.