The Circus is Back in Town

[richiebee]

Anyone seen the Big Tent pitched near the Lower East Side of Manhattan?

If you can not see the Big Top, you might be able to see the plume of toxic
spew over the East Village.

I do not know who is more unsavory-- the exiled Clown who beginning on 9/11/08
began to use the Rag board to advance his personal vendetta, or the Ringmaster
who seems to be more than happy to let the blathersome one continue his thinly
veiled tirades.

The only real \"comedy\" in this is that \"Cube\" is on the Rag board, but his posts
cite Beyer #s and TG figs-- I guess Len is happy to have a rabid dog under the
big top, but not that happy that he intends to provide \"Cube\" with free data.

I will stop now before I get my boxers in a bunch.

I make this pitch every year at BC time. I think JB and Len should do a once a
year only at Breeders Cup time collaboration. I think it would be a brilliant!
marketing ploy for both camps, would show the differences in methodology between
Ragozin and TG. I think a package which included analysis and figures from both
the West Village and East Village, and maybe a panel discussion which included
JB and Bombowitz and The Ringmaster and Hardoon would be immensely profitable
(definitely for TG and Ragozin, hopefully for horseplayers who pay a king\'s
ransom for this blockbuster multi-media event) and extremely entertaining.

[miff]

\"I think it would be a brilliant!marketing ploy for both camps, would show the differences in methodology between Rags and TG\"

Bee,

The methodology is basically the same, the results(figs) are different too often by too much, scale to scale.Raggies swear by Len, Graph Heads by Jerry, makes the feuding Hatfield\'s and Mc Coys look tame by comparison.The two groups had regular wars at the track on a daily basis a couple of years ago.

Mike

[SoCalMan2]

richiebee Wrote:
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> Anyone seen the Big Tent pitched near the Lower
> East Side of Manhattan?
>
> If you can not see the Big Top, you might be able
> to see the plume of toxic
> spew over the East Village.
>
> I do not know who is more unsavory-- the exiled
> Clown who beginning on 9/11/08
> began to use the Rag board to advance his personal
> vendetta, or the Ringmaster
> who seems to be more than happy to let the
> blathersome one continue his thinly
> veiled tirades.
>
> The only real \"comedy\" in this is that \"Cube\" is
> on the Rag board, but his posts
> cite Beyer #s and TG figs-- I guess Len is happy
> to have a rabid dog under the
> big top, but not that happy that he intends to
> provide \"Cube\" with free data.
>
> I will stop now before I get my boxers in a
> bunch.
>
> I make this pitch every year at BC time. I think
> JB and Len should do a once a
> year only at Breeders Cup time collaboration. I
> think it would be a brilliant!
> marketing ploy for both camps, would show the
> differences in methodology between
> Ragozin and TG. I think a package which included
> analysis and figures from both
> the West Village and East Village, and maybe a
> panel discussion which included
> JB and Bombowitz and The Ringmaster and Hardoon
> would be immensely profitable
> (definitely for TG and Ragozin, hopefully for
> horseplayers who pay a king\'s
> ransom for this blockbuster multi-media event) and
> extremely entertaining.


Hadn\'t been in that neck of the woods in a very long time.  Went to go see what all the commotion was about.  Noticed an impassioned analysis of Commentator\'s Mass Handicap by the clown with a congratulatory response submitted by one \"classhandicapper\".  Is that the same \"classhandicapper\" that used to frequent this board?

[jimbo66]

Yes, that is the same \"class handicapper\" that used to, and still does inhabit this board.

Fkach stands for \"Formerly Known As Class Handicapper\"

[TGJB]

Richie-- yes, Len is happy to have someone taking shots at me, he\'s let people do it before, as you know. But CTC will get himself thrown off there quickly-- theover/under is 5 more posts. Especially if he keeps quoting other figures.

Years ago I propsed a handicapping contest between Len and myself to be held on the DRF website. The idea was the same as yours in terms of promotion, and since the site was new at the time, it would gave driven people there as well. The DRF was for it, Friedman was not. I doubt they would  do it now.

We also did the \"Between the Sheets\" feature in DRF for a while for the TC and other big races. Steve Crist decided that wasn\'t a good idea, so it ended.

[Caradoc]

Jimbo: You beat me to the observation.  I read the exchanges yesterday, and wondered to myself: Where have I seen this style before?  The same compulsion to post, the same fixation on pace, the same superiority complex . . . so I started to thumb through the archives and found this post Classhandicapper addressed to HP, which in style and substance is indistinguishable from a post by Fkach:

\"Date: October 05, 2005 02:36PM

HP,

I would have been happy to make one comment and go away but some people are too dense to understand the distinction I was making and feel compelled to assume the worst about everything I say so they have another reason to trash me.\"

Classhandicapper had been banned. For this transgression, he may have just earned the first ban without even the possibility of reconsideration.

[Boscar Obarra]

The banking system is melting down and you\'re worried about this. Hey, what good is being a horseplayer if you can\'t ignore the real world.

 Think the treasury would like to nationalize Belmont?

[jimbo66]

That\'s funny Caradoc, almost looks like a cut and paste of what he posted yesterday.

I always wonder about those people that go on and on about other people\'s ability to understand them.  They always think it is the problem of those \"other people\".

But hey, let\'s move on.  Big weekend of horse racing coming up, with solid Belmont card and good left coast races as well.  

Can\'t wait to see the Saturday sheets, Thursday night!!

Jim

[TGJB]

Banking shmanking. Have you watched the Mets bullpen recently???

[HP]

That is him I guess.  I didn\'t really have anything to say about the Mass Cap.  If I was there I would have passed.  Let him post.  It\'s like TV, you don\'t have to watch it.  

HP