Old time Derby line....Derby winner?

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The old read for Derby winners 2yo lines was a debut mid to late summer and gradual improvement to the end of the year.

Cappuchino:

12/15... 8.1r
11/24... 8.1s
10/20....... 12.0s
09/13....... 12.1s
07/21......... 17.0s

Had a 5pt top to a 2.0 before the El Camino at GG and a big bounce. 62-1 FP#1

Easyfromthegetgo:

12/14... 7.3r
11/16.... 9.0s
10/28.... 9.0s
10/06.... 9.0s
08/25......11.3s

Paired up the 7.3\'s twice more as a 3yo, likely move forward in La Derby. 41-1 FP#1, FP-2 ML 20-1

Harlans Holiday: Almost perfect?

11/04... 2.1r (too fast 2yo# ?)
10/06..... 7.0r
09/03......  9.5r
08/04....... 10.3s
07/07....... 11.0s
06/09......... 16.0s

Debut 3yo number an impressive 2.2; FOY? 17-1 FP#1, FP-2 ML 15-1 Stalking style fits Derby run.

High Star:

11/24... 5.3r
11/03..... 8.0s
09/09.........16.3s
08/05.........16.3s

Not the perfect line with the big jump up, but 3yo debut pair ups help, next alw? FP#1 29-1, FP-2 ML 50-1, huge drop with good FD run.

Monthir:

11/24...... 11.0r
10/26... 4.5r
09/22..... 8.2s
08/23...... 11.3
07/25....... 13.1

Not sure if AB or JB would agree that this pattern fits, but bounce at that point was likely. He went thru 2yo top in 2nd start in the Hutcheson a 3.2. FP only in Vegas, Ballys has him at 75-1

Nokoma:

11/24.... 6.3r
10/13..... 8.0r
09/22....... 13.0s

Don\'t recall if 3 races qualifies and debut is kinda late, perhaps TG might comment. FP#1 43-1, FP-2 ML 50-1

Repent:

11/24... 4.0r
10/27.... 6.1r
09/22..... 8.0r
09/07..... 8.0r
08/23....... 12.0s

3.0 in Risen Star. Maybe change in type of blinkers worn might straighten out his act. FP#1 8-1, FP-2 4-1

Request For Parole:

11/24.... 6.2r
11/04... 3.2r
10/06....... 9.1r
09/03....... 9.1r
08/18....... 9.1s
07/12........ 10.1
06/23........ 10.1

Perhaps this pattern doesn\'t quite make it either, but his 2.2 in the TP \"Frog\" race 1st out a good sign. FP#1 58-1, FP-2 ML 20-1

Saarland: Perfect Line?

10/27.... 9.0r
10/06..... 9.3r
09/08...... 11.1r
08/04........16.1s

Better than Harlans in that he didn\'t have the huge top. Problem is he still hasn\'t raced, though this weeks Gotham might be on tap. FP#1 11-1, FP-2 12-1

Showmeitall:

12/15...... 11.1s
11/23.... 6.2s
11/04...... 11.1r
09/29...... 10.3r
09/14....... 12.0r
08/25........ 14.0s

Not sure if this horse qualifies. The \"ugly\" bounce was dismissed coming right back 01/03 with a 3.3, Hutcheson? FP-2 50-1 Good Tampa Derby run might not affect odds too much. Remember Menifee took the TBD route.

Hope someone enjoyed this! LOL

Good luck to all.

bdhsheets

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TG:

There are 3 replies to this thread, any way I can access them? I have no problem accessing others. Is there a problem with posts that are  put up early, early in the a..m., Thanks!

Gvido

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Well, there were 3 replies listed before I posted the \"help\" post. If you scoot down to my Camino Real post (2 replies) and the San Rafael (1 reply) neither replies are visible, perhaps some technical glitch with posts logged in very early in the a.m.?? If one of you guys replied to the \"Old Time Derby line\" would you mind reposting it? Thanks in advance.

Gvido