FRIEDMAN'S ABSURD NUMBERS FOR THE DERBY

[high roller]

ALA BROTHER DEREK LEN SAYS SS HAS NOT COME BACK TO HIS 2 YR OLD TOP, DOES ANYONE IN THE WORLD BELIEVE THAT A BIG STRONG 3 YR OLD SS DOESN\'T DESTROY THE 2 YR OLD SS, 6 MONTHS LATER, COME ON YA ALL!

I DON\'T CARE IF JERRY OR LEN IS WRONG I GIVE IT TO BOTH OF THEM BECAUSE I BUY BOTH THEIR PRODUCTS AND DON\'T GIVE A RAT\'S TALE!



The Ragozin Numbers
                    for the
  KENTUCKY DERBY 2007

STREET SENSE
 3+
 
 
 
HARD SPUN
 3"
 t
 
 
CURLIN
 6-
 t
 
 
IMAWILDANDCRAZYGUY
 6-
 
 
 
SEDGEFIELD
 8"
 
 
 
CIRCULAR QUAY
 5"
 
 
 
TIAGO
 7
 
 
 
ANY GIVEN SATURDAY
 6"
 
 
 
SAM P.
 9"
 
 
 
NOBIZ LIKE SHOBIZ
 9+
 
 
 
DOMINICAN
 10+
 
 
 
ZANJERO
 12
 T
 
 
GREAT HUNTER
 11+
 t
 
 
LIQUIDITY
 14"
 t
 
 
BWANA BULL
 13"
 
 
 
STORM IN MAY
 16
 
 
 
TEUFLESBERG
 20"
 
 
 
SCAT DADDY
 20"

[MO]

CAPS notwithstanding, the Pletcher also rans appear to have \"hidden\" performances, according to the competition\'s \"product\".

Let\'s wait until the really accurate data comes out before we jump to conclusions, OK kid?

[high roller]

whatever you are trying to say makes no sense, \"hidden performances\"? from 5 horses who ran up the track? not to mention c quay who ran a off or x off a 8 week layoff

[Barry Irwin]

The numbers are not saying Street Sense is not as good as he was at 2. It is only reporting what happened in this race on the first Saturday in May under the Twin Spires in the Run for the Roses on the hallowed ground at Churchill Downs.

[MO]

Funny, I gave you the Derby winner in a PM, you don\'t pay me for it, and then you bad mouth me in public.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Will defer to TGraph, but without factoring field ground loss have to make Street Sense\'s race in the Negative 1 to Negative 2 range and I don\'t believe the rail was golden.

Regarding the analysis, congrats to TGraph. They gave an unambiguous call on essentially a 5-1 horse and a clear call on a 50-1 perfecta. Combinations may have reduced it to about 10-1 but handicappers have to relish those kinds of returns. I did a little better, but I utilized TGraphs figures doing so. I just interpreted them a little differently.

However, what I really want to know is whether Barry Irwin with his ties to the Pletcher barn can provide us with some insight upon how much notice the Stable had regarding the \"surpise drug test\" All here would appreciate any additional info upon the event.

Lastly Barry, I have actually upgraded your horse a bit. Tiago impressed me mightily in the Derby. He got to yours like you were standing still last and i can\'t say additionaly distance will suit yours. But it sure suits him.

high roller Wrote:
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> ALA BROTHER DEREK LEN SAYS SS HAS NOT COME BACK TO
> HIS 2 YR OLD TOP, DOES ANYONE IN THE WORLD BELIEVE
> THAT A BIG STRONG 3 YR OLD SS DOESN\'T DESTROY THE
> 2 YR OLD SS, 6 MONTHS LATER, COME ON YA ALL!
>
> I DON\'T CARE IF JERRY OR LEN IS WRONG I GIVE IT TO
> BOTH OF THEM BECAUSE I BUY BOTH THEIR PRODUCTS AND
> DON\'T GIVE A RAT\'S TALE!
>
>
>
> The Ragozin Numbers
>                     for the
>   KENTUCKY DERBY 2007
>
> STREET SENSE
>  3+
>  
>  
>  
> HARD SPUN
>  3"
>  t
>  
>  
> CURLIN
>  6-
>  t
>  
>  
> IMAWILDANDCRAZYGUY
>  6-
>  
>  
>  
> SEDGEFIELD
>  8"
>  
>  
>  
> CIRCULAR QUAY
>  5"
>  
>  
>  
> TIAGO
>  7
>  
>  
>  
> ANY GIVEN SATURDAY
>  6"
>  
>  
>  
> SAM P.
>  9"
>  
>  
>  
> NOBIZ LIKE SHOBIZ
>  9+
>  
>  
>  
> DOMINICAN
>  10+
>  
>  
>  
> ZANJERO
>  12
>  T
>  
>  
> GREAT HUNTER
>  11+
>  t
>  
>  
> LIQUIDITY
>  14"
>  t
>  
>  
> BWANA BULL
>  13"
>  
>  
>  
> STORM IN MAY
>  16
>  
>  
>  
> TEUFLESBERG
>  20"
>  
>  
>  
> SCAT DADDY
>  20"