Derby Prep Saturday

[mchmura44]

After reviewing all three Saturday\'s main preps, The Wood Memorial, The Illinois Derby, and the Santa Anita Derby, it is safe to say that the Kentucky Derby Winner is probably not in those races.  A horse that never crossed the wire first won the Santa Anita Derby, No Biz Like Shobiz won in a slow time, and Cowtown Cat won the Illinois Derby and beat a suspect field.  Could it finally be the year that a horse with only two preps and Juvenile Champion get the job done?  Time will tell.  

Matt

[miff]

A legit maiden.Condolences to Team Valor, a tough beat by a real plodding rat, just like his brother Giacomo.

[Dana666]

I agree w/two out of three, but NoBiz\' race was tremendous. That horse showed a lot of guts, and it seems like a perfect prep. for the Derby -- I loved the way he fought inside. I believe he\'ll move forward off his wood try --as fars as the other two preps. very weak races indeed.

[miff]

No Biz was gutsy but not very fast considering the speed of the surface all day.

[P-Dub]

miff Wrote:
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> A legit maiden.Condolences to Team Valor, a tough
> beat by a real plodding rat, just like his brother
> Giacomo.


Then how can you say a \"tough beat\" if he isn\'t good enough to beat a \"plodding rat\"??  It just kills some of you when a West Coast horse does something positive, like win a GR 1 or the Kentucky Derby. I\'m sure you would love to own a \"plodding rat\" like Giacomo. Life does exist west of the Mississippi River.

[Uncle Buck]

P Dub. The East Coast Bias is so bad. None of our west coast horses get much love and certainly not our football, baseball and basketball teams. I rag on SI\'s Peter King all of the time about what a hideous bias he and other top east coast scribes have.

I seem to remember a nice little match race in 1938 between the \"elite\" eastern establishment and their highly superior War Admiral vs our little \"rat\" from the West Seabiscuit. We all know how that wound up.

Tiago was the only horse really running late. From a betting perspective I really wish he would have come second as that would have made my year so far.

Lastly - I LOVE seeing such humble and classy connections like the Moss\'s and Sheriff\'s having success. I hope they spring another shcoker on the establishment May 5th

[flushedstraight]

Since Point Given\'s Belmont win, west coast prepped horses are 1 for 15 in TC races. That\'s a stat, not a bias. Until that turns around, I would expect more disrespecting, including some that is unfairly east-coast biased from a few scattered dupes.

In the meantime, I hope y\'all appreciate that one of the truly classy jocks in racing has moved his tack from NY to LA. The With the Mig show from Saratoga will be sorely missed this year. Gut-wrenching loss on Roxy yesterday... he may not be Gary Stevens but he deserved it anyway.

[miff]

P DUB,

No bias here.A slow rat is a slow rat, east or west coast.Of course I\'d love to own Giacomo but he\'s still a certified slow rat.

Mike

[shanahan]

PDub, I spent the morning riding back to DFW airport from Hot Springs with none other than Richard Mandella...hard to read guy.  

Anyway, I won the SA Derby exacta with a $1 ex of 9/2,3,5,7,8 and the reverse...not with TG info this time, but just hoping the race would collapse and someone would close into the pack and pass them all, which it looked like this guy could do based on his late running...in this one case, it happened.

I\'ve always like those CA trainers...

[P-Dub]

Flushed,
Thats a pretty poor comparison.

West Coast basically means California. You\'ve pretty much compared 1 state to the rest of the country. There is probably at least 15 times as many horses on the Derby trail from Non-Cal states as there is from Cal in any given year. That 1 for 15 stat you threw out there means nothing.