Hawthorne Gold Cup among others Update

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Noticed Super Frolic isn\'t among the entrys and am a little surprised at that. The 10 poles suits him and he has run well on the surface. The purse is the same as the Goodwood and they are both Grade II\'s. Certainly can\'t understand why they didn\'t opt for what on paper looks to be a significantly softer spot in the H. Gold cup. Can Super Frolic be HOTY by beating Lava Man out there and winning the Breeders Cup Classic?  Well, maybe but even if he pulled off those two wins the HOTY matter would be very debatable.

Without Super Frolic its an interesting race. They\'ve made Papi Chulo the morning line favorite and can\'t disagree with that. Theres a couple of morning line horses at 8-1 one of which could make some noise. Well, I\'ll be a little more revealing. The horse which I believe may move up enough to seriously challenge is this one:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/kid+grindstone

Note his sire is a Derby winner and his Maternal side Grandma a 10 pole Distaff winner. Granted that side of the pedigree hasn\'t produced a whole lot but this horse is a serious over achiever when it comes to his TGI sire averages. He\'s moved up big time each year and Grindstones do improve with age under TGI. I\'m guessing this one will improve with distance also and am going to project a top here. Whether thats good enough to win is another matter.


Read Pletcher has Lawyer Ron now. The horse may not be a 10 pole horse but he will certainly move him up a point. Either that or break him down.

Commentator to train up on Polynonsense to the Breeders Cup Sprint. Why not the Classic? Put some bottom into him!

[Silver Charm]

Also saw that Pletcher took over Lawyer Ron. Not real sure on the move-up though. Maybe a short-lived one, that was always Bafferts MO, but in the long run the problems do not go away. (See Harlans Holiday)

If Pletcher gives him time then that is another story.

Was way to busy last week to post but after watching the Super Derby, my feelings were that Lawyer Ron is a runner, Strong Contender is a racehorse.

Big difference.

Lawyer Ron runs like I do when barefoot on 100+ degree beach sand. I know why I do, but why does he.

PS-Holthus did well with this horse, just like McPeek did with Harlans Holiday.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> Also saw that Pletcher took over Lawyer Ron. Not
> real sure on the move-up though. Maybe a
> short-lived one, that was always Bafferts MO, but
> in the long run the problems do not go away. (See
> Harlans Holiday)
>
> If Pletcher gives him time then that is another
> story.
>
> Was way to busy last week to post but after
> watching the Super Derby, my feelings were that
> Lawyer Ron is a runner, Strong Contender is a
> racehorse.
>
> Big difference.
>
> Lawyer Ron runs like I do when barefoot on 100+
> degree beach sand. I know why I do, but why does
> he.
>
> PS-Holthus did well with this horse, just like
> McPeek did with Harlans Holiday.

Can\'t argue that Lawyer Ron is a ground pounder, but in that field he could be excused coming off his surgery and having only one race. He still ran very well. Maybe Strong Contender is the better horse, time will tell. The latter did go off at 5-2 second choice in that race. Now he\'s not a \"one timer\" any longer. Whether he beats Ron next time, if there is a next time, will be interesting. Its likely we\'ll get better odds whichever way we choose to bet.

[spa]

The difference is The jock change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!