The 1915 Kentucky Derby

[tonyk]

I stand corrected .Why couldn\'t you learn to change leads ,you wouldn\'t have needed the stewards to put  you up.Well at least you out performed that Harbor View scrap heap in the shed row.

[Alydar in California]

Suspension or injured.

I ran a better figure in all three Triple Crown races. As all thinking people agree, that is the real Triple Crown.

Good point about changing leads.

[tonyk]

Too bad you can\'t collect the winner\'s share on speed figures .Jorge should have pumped you from the gate to get the rail.

[tonyk]

Yeah ,I remember Cauthen going over the rail and breaking his arm in a turf race i think he was injured for the Travers

[nunzio]

Alydar,

I wish they paid at the windows based on figures,  my POP would have at least cashed
his wins bet each time.  He doubled his bet each successive time & got beat again & again.



I took a wack with War Emblem at
20-1, if Perfect Drift would have
gotten 2nd, I\'d just be getting back
from the Bahamas about now!  I just read that WE has chips in both ankles, hard to beleive they haven\'t moved into a spot to make him go
lame.  Booklet will make WE either rate
a little or cause him to run eyeball to eyeball for a while.  Medaglia d\'Ora
ran credibly but the switch to Bailey
will ruin the price.  They might leave
HH alone but a really good trainer
I know told me he saw HH train in FLA
and he was a push button horse who did everything easy & when he was actually
asked down the lane in his final prep at CD,
he felt the horse was spent.  He said if he were his horse, he\'d hardly see the track before the Preakness.  HH may have very well
been squeezed dry.  USS Tinossa has been
lighting up the worktab in KY, he will need to improve but he will be a price.

Good Luck.

Nunzio

[Alydar in California]

My trainer believed--mistakenly--that I hated to run on the rail.

[tread]

Improve??  I think he can win the race by running back to his previous top (1.5).  Don\'t see WE or PC pairing tops, they should both regress.  If MDoro pairs, USST can still beat him with his best effort.  USST also runs further back in the pack, pace will be an issue this time, unlike the KY derby.

[Michael D.]

What kind of figure do you suppose Slew would have received for that 1:45.80 jog around the track? Considering horses these days get in the 0 to -1 range when going 1.47 and change
.......While on the subject, what does Secretariat get for his Belmont? I think Point Given received a -2 last year, for running 2.26 and change over a track that moved him up about a second or so. How many lengths would Secretariat have beaten PG by?
Maybe 15 or 20? 30? 35? I will be kind to PG and guess 20.

[Dan]

I\'m not so sure. Secretariat was awesome but something like 3 or 4 track records fell that day and his main competition more of less broke down in the race. (I think there was a post about this after Commendable won the Belmont) PG ran a helluva race, actually looked a lot like Secretariats and it sure would be something to have seen them lock up and that day. Even by your math, Secretariat wins by 15 and that ignores all the improvements in the breed, and everything else which has lead to faster horses in the last 30 years. Assuming equal groundloss etc. I\'d give it to Secretariat by three give or take a length.