Tyler Baze

[Dana666]

Anyone know if he\'s having any particular issues? I remember years ago he had problems with being too thin. His rides as of late seem really poor, many on favorites. Would be something to note for Del Mar. I don\'t wish him anything bad, but what I\'ve seen lately is brutal, even worse than the normal bad southern California rides we see ten times a day. There\'s like 3 real jockeys out there as compared with NYRA where the talent runs very deep. Never understood why this is so.

[richiebee]

Thanks for sharing the observation. Any related statistics available? I am always particularly interested in how a jockey does in photo finishes, and also how a jock does riding a mount for the first time.

\"Like 3 real jockeys out there\"? Ok, Bejarano, Smith, Stevens. That leaves leading rider Flavien Prat, the outstanding apprentice Eavin Roman, Joe Talamo, Kent Desormeaux, Corey Nakatani and others who I do not have to name because I think I have established to my own satisfaction that there are more than 3 \"real jockeys\" on the West Coast.

Post responsibly.

[Dana666]

I exaggerate a little.

Definitely not Bejarano though. Good lord he grabs everything and goes 5 wide whenever possible. He wins often because he\'s on the best horse many, many times. He\'s awful.

I would say:
Smith (obviously great)
Prat (very solid)
Roman (making a name now)
Kent D  (still great)
Stevens  (still great)
Talamo  (very solid)

The rest you can have.



Seriously though, compare SO Cal with NYRA. It\'s a joke.


Evin A. Roman    194    41    28    19    $1,321,205
Flavien Prat    177    41    25    28    $2,091,893
Joseph Talamo    215    37    38    22    $1,808,078
Rafael Bejarano    153    33    23    25    $1,957,616
Tyler Baze    193    24    33    40    $1,315,108
Tiago Josue Pereira    170    19    27    23    $843,375
Gary L. Stevens    82    17    11    11    $985,381
Edwin A. Maldonado    110    16    18    18    $729,092
Kent J. Desormeaux    67    14    12    8    $879,767
Kyle Frey    95    14    9    16    $362,519
Santiago Gonzalez    141    12    15    24    $639,406
Norberto Arroyo, Jr.    87    12    13    15    $789,789
Martin A. Pedroza    133    12    11    26    $508,512
Jamie Theriot    84    11    6    9    $435,875
Mike E. Smith    36    11    5    6    $1,090,860
Israel Ocampo    96    10    17    7    $330,332
Mario Gutierrez    70    10    14    5    $556,110
Corey S. Nakatani    73    9    13    9    $626,480
Martin Garcia    67    9    8    12    $645,825
Stewart Elliott    128    8    17    17    $480,677




Jose L. Ortiz    303    59    59    48    $6,247,044
Irad Ortiz, Jr.    318    58    57    42    $4,330,217
Manuel Franco    279    44    29    40    $2,604,912
Luis Saez    209    36    30    29    $2,411,328
Joel Rosario    206    35    43    31    $3,389,139
Javier Castellano    206    33    36    28    $4,274,917
John R. Velazquez    199    33    32    36    $3,180,063
Angel S. Arroyo    190    23    16    25    $1,405,526
Kendrick Carmouche    136    18    9    15    $993,679
Dylan Davis    159    16    20    21    $1,063,798
Rajiv Maragh    175    14    22    20    $1,484,260
Jose Lezcano    129    14    14    17    $1,221,595
Eric Cancel    126    13    18    10    $772,332
Cornelio H. Velasquez    88    12    10    11    $598,862
Paco Lopez    60    7    8    12    $979,695
Ricardo Santana, Jr.    83    6    7    12    $484,943
Rosario Montanez    56    6    6    2    $284,620
Hector Rafael Diaz, Jr.    108    5    13    12    $423,237
Luis R. Reyes    104    5    5    10    $247,807
Mike E. Smith    16    5    1    1    $2,060,025

[richiebee]

Dana: Thanks for the statistics. We all exaggerate.

One thing that should come clear from the stats is that the shorter fields (and shortened racing weeks due to lack of entries)add a competitive element to West Coast racing not seen on the East Coast.

Your top six at NYRA would be the Ortiz Bros, John Velazquez and Javier Castellano (both of whom make their living riding short priced TAPs and Chads), Joel Rosario  (who, like Mrs. Gump says, is like a box of chocolates) and then (choose one) Luis Saez or Jose Lezcano.

So looking at the top guns on the West Coast, I might say \"advantage NYRA\" based on the \"relative\" youth of the NYRA room.

If you brought some of the second tier Cal riders (S. Gonzalez, E. Maldonado, T. Baze, J. Talamo, etc) to NYRA, they would be every bit as successful as Cancel, Franco, Carmouche, etc. Just my opinion.

[hooper]

Those jockey stats don’t look right. Was there a filter? Here are the latest Equibase jockey numbers as of today. http://www.equibase.com/stats/View.cfm?tf=year&tb=horse#sthash.DSLPfMRR.dpbs

Click Jockeys on the link site. Didn’t come through in original post.

[ajkreider]

Is Jose Ortiz now the best jockey in the land?  Given his age, he might rewrite the record books by the time he hangs it up.

[philywheel]

Hey N Arroyo used to ride at NYRA all the time ,I saw he went out to Cal. and did really well, at NYRA average at best

Philywheel


and the Ortiz Bros, watching them every day they are just off the charts, even on their days off the go to parx

everyone looks at stats, just bet the Ortiz Bros and you will do fine , no need for the racing form

[Topcat]

Stevens is WILDLY inconsistent. . . well-beyond expected standard deviation.

I\'ll leave it at that.

[RICH]

last 6 months Ortiz brothers 24% win .74 roi

[philywheel]

But if your a Horizontal player like me, 24% is a valuable tool

philywheel

[Mc990]

Maybe I\'m missing something but how does a negative expectation turn into a positive one just because you\'re playing horizontals.... That ROI last 6 months is brutal.

If you go by this logic, wouldn\'t it be a good idea to blindly include all favorites when playing horizontals... Your hit rate would exceed 24% and your ROI would be slightly healthier.

[philywheel]

I think your missing the correct info, this is for the last 90 day
Irad:Last 90 days   383   20.1%   $1.45   
77  - 71  - 52
Jose:385   17.7%   $1.74   
68  - 70  - 65

Including theses guys in PIK 3.4 and 5
is a must , discount them and you are probally ripping up those tickets
( I learned the  had way)

Philywheel

[RICH]

The info is correct for 6 months, .74 roi, to a dollar, yours is to 2 dollars

As for the favorites in the last 6 months, 19,253 races 33% .80 roi

[philywheel]

Hey Rich , The public makes the Fav , not me. I know what I have in the Ortiz bros
Philywheel