Mohaymen in the Kings Bishop

[Silver Charm]

Interesting choice of races. All but an omission he cant go with the big ones at a mile and a quarter even though his Derby wasn\'t that bad.

A couple of things to consider. He will get heavily bet beyond his figures. He hasn\'t run that super fast. In the 1 range. Sheet is in the archives for Derby Figures. He doesn\'t have the kind of early speed he will see here. Trainer is notorious for some unreal moveups in Big races. Tricky read. will be waiting for the Analysis

[jimbo66]

Hard to imagine an analysis that has this guy a key player at a short price.

Running 1s, mediocre derby run, followed by layoff, followed by stumble and poor running the Jim dandy.   Then the connections shorten him to avoid the 1 1/4 Travers.   Ugh.

Heard serling, who may be the only guy at the saratoga meet handicapping worse than I am, compare Mohaymen shortening up here to what hard spun did.

Technically, similar move.

Light years of difference.  Hard spun had a great derby race, done in by a Hal of fame rode by Borel, followed up by a moronic ride by garret Gomez in the preakness, and am ok belmont at a distance just too far.  Then ran a decent 2nd in the haskell.

Bottom line hard spun had form, good form.   Mohaymen has reputation and a likely short price.

Jim

[boardedup]

Mohaymen is not really anywhere close to what Hard spun was.  Other than his hot/cold trainer being hot right now, I can\'t see any reason to play this horse at a short(ish) price.

[Silver Charm]

For once you and I agree on something....and that is a scary thought. Hard Spun worked in like 33 on Wednesday before the Derby and then backed it up by almost getting there on Derby Day. Hard Spun was FAST. Something Mohaymen has yet to prove he is....

[jp702006]

I haven\'t really looked at the entries or where they ran last. However, let\'s not forget the two horses that ran 1st and 2nd last year. Both Ellis Park shippers who were slow on TG. It should be a great day of racing, but I will be keeping an eye out for those who look like they don\'t fit from unknown trainers.


Patrick