MO/MOR/DC

[ringato3]

Jerry,

I want to believe that, as I have been betting against Nyquist, fruitlessly, from his first race onwards.  

That said, I believe Mike/Miff or somebody posted another interpretation of that stretch run.  Mario shifting fairly suddenly in the saddle, possibly knocking the horse a bit off kilter.  I have watched the replay at least 5 times.  I am not sure I agree with Mike/Miff (if it was him), but I can\'t definitively disagree either.  It was an irregular movement by Mario and it certainly temporarily could have set the horse off balance enough to cause the veering.  That said, the veering continued beyond the initial movement which is why I can\'t fully buy it.  The other problem with interpreting that veering IMO is that I think most of us can tell when a horse is BO/BI from tiring, running on the wrong lead, etc.etc.  Nyquist did NOT LOOK LIKE THAT to my eye.  He was \"taking off\", almost giving the appearance of a \"re-break\", which I don\'t associate with a tiring BO/BI.  Hard to say why he was veering in / veering out.  

All that said, I am a horizontal bettor mostly and unless I single a longshot somewhere in the sequence, I will likely not have Nyquist on any tickets.  But it won\'t be because of the BO/BI.  Truth be told, on TG (and Beyer), he isn\'t that fast.  I know he keeps winning, but it would seem to be a violation of my handicapping religion to take a relatively slow horse in a 20 horse field as the favorite.  There are other bets to be made.  (hopefully winning ones....)

Rob

[boardedup]

It seems like Nyquist has either BO or BI in 4/5 previous races??, so I would agree that it shouldn\'t be used a reason to bet against him.

[miff]

Re Nyquist,love him or hate him. Even in training,at CD and Cali he cocks his head to the right coming by the grandstand, that\'s just him.He also has never let a horse get by him in the am or in a race when hooked.

Dont love him at all but he is almost certain to use his tactical edge to be in a good ground saving position which cannot be said for about 16 others.

[jbelfior]

I\'m not a fan of him in this race nor am I a fan of his connections.

However to toss an undefeated horse who won the Florida Derby off of one 7f prep is begging for a massive Saturday night headache if he beats your longshot and the exacta is $200+.


Good Luck,
Joe B.

[johnnym]

I still say he didn\'t care for the slop that day..
He did what good horses do \"just win baby\"