Lies and nonviolent felonies

[SoCalMan2]

magicnight Wrote:
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> TGJB Wrote:
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> > Quite a string. My one contribution will be
> that
> > public contrary claims notwithstanding, I know
> for
> > a fact the misspelling of the horse\'s name came
> > from the owners, not the Jockey Club.
>
> Indeed! Name filed online. No data entry by the
> JC. I cut that out because it seems those lies
> came from the kid, not AZ. What\'s that they say
> about the apple and the tree?

I have no idea whose fault the misspelling is and I am not sympathetic to the Zayats. They could have easily corrected the JC\'s error but did not.  HOWEVER, I need to point out that the Jockey Club electronic system is not infallible.  I know of a case with three foals being registered by a breeder at one time and on the three certificates the breeder\'s name came out three different ways.  I am fairly certain that names can be changed (or corrected) any time up until the horse has a reported work out, so the Zayats should not get an easy pass here (even if they could not have changed it up to that point, I am reasonable certain they could have corrected it right away once the Jockey Club sent them the incorrect confirmation).

[miff]

Why all the ink about there being a s--mbag in the game, been that way forever,must be the Triple Crown thing. Gonna be a little interesting how NBC covers the \"Zayat\" story on National TV Sat.

[richiebee]

Hey Rob:

Have enjoyed your input and hope you don\'t turn out to be a TG \"tourist\" ie
someone who posts only during Triple Crown and Breeders Cup.

My final words (promise) on Zayat -- no matter how large a POS Zayat may be, it
does not affect my enjoyment of or participation in racing. Borrowing money to
bet on races (or to participate in any activity which involves speculation) is
a notion very foreign to me. If Zayat\'s questionable behavior somehow
threatens the well being of one of the \"large offshore places\" you wager with,
well then maybe I understand your concern.

I still have friends and connections on the backstretch and have known well
this man\'s reputation long before it was discussed here. I even called him
\"Nopayat\" in a pre  - Derby post, much to the mirth of M. Beychok

I figured I owed you a response but these are my last words on Zayat.

[flushedstraight]

miff Wrote:
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> Gonna be a little interesting how NBC covers the \"Zayat\" story on National TV Sat.


Given that they will not go near the realities discussed here, seems like a good time to trot out Brian Williams for his comeback

[TGJB]

SoCal-- note usage. \"I know for a fact\".

[kencbs]

One of the best bumper stickers I\'ve ever seen was from a redneck in Houston driving a pickup with a gun rack who had this one - \"My kid beat up your honor student\"

[NormandyInvasion]

SoCalMan2 Wrote:
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> magicnight Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TGJB Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Quite a string. My one contribution will be
> > that
> > > public contrary claims notwithstanding, I
> know
> > for
> > > a fact the misspelling of the horse\'s name
> came
> > > from the owners, not the Jockey Club.
> >
> > Indeed! Name filed online. No data entry by the
> > JC. I cut that out because it seems those lies
> > came from the kid, not AZ. What\'s that they say
> > about the apple and the tree?
>
> I have no idea whose fault the misspelling is and
> I am not sympathetic to the Zayats. They could
> have easily corrected the JC\'s error but did not.
> HOWEVER, I need to point out that the Jockey Club
> electronic system is not infallible.  I know of a
> case with three foals being registered by a
> breeder at one time and on the three certificates
> the breeder\'s name came out three different ways.
> I am fairly certain that names can be changed (or
> corrected) any time up until the horse has a
> reported work out, so the Zayats should not get an
> easy pass here (even if they could not have
> changed it up to that point, I am reasonable
> certain they could have corrected it right away
> once the Jockey Club sent them the incorrect
> confirmation).

The JC actually issued a press release stating that the spelling came from the owner.  They were obviously a little peeved at Justin Zayat blaming them.  In addition, as noted, they had plenty of time before his recorded first breeze to correct it.  Logic tells us that they didn\'t know how to spell the word which is how they both submitted it misspelled and then didn\'t notice it was misspelled until it was pointed out to them (and too late).

[Boscar Obarra]

In the good old days , everything was done by hand. You\'d think they run everything by a computerized spell checker, but there are so many deliberately  odd spellings submitted, that they may become numb to it.

[shanahan]

that\'s great writing.  Thanks for sharing.  Loved the last sentence.  

had no idea he was a shmuck.  thought he was a \"rags to riches\" story (apologies to Rags to Riches)

[miff]

Joe Drape:

\"New York lawyers has filed a $10 million dollar libel suit against Ahmed Zayat in federal court, saying n New Jersey. Story coming\"


....bad karma for AP?

[magicnight]

I don\'t think the Karma will bother the horse much. It\'s those 11th and 12th furlongs I wonder about.

This libel suit - I\'d think - comes straight out of that Observer story you posted here, Mike. Not a lawyer but things you say to a reporter that subsequently become public would be libel, yes? Zayat couldn\'t keep his mouth shut and now he has this extra lawsuit to help tide him through this week.

[richiebee]

FrankD. Wrote:
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> Looks like Laura is Insisting we go!!!! OMG after
> 26 years of marriage I thought I was all done with
> those edicts! So I\'m hoping for dry skies.

\"meet the new boss, same as the old boss\"?

Yeah Frank we all feel sorry for you, having a significant other who begs you
to go to the races.

Accuweather Update -- Light rain right this moment in Midtown Manhattan; total
precip for yesterday (Central Park): 0.64 inches. Accuweather forecast -- rain
tapering off Tuesday.

Wednesday, Thursday, Friday partly cloudy, cool, no significant additional
precip.

Looking for fast and good on Friday. Also looking for Friday TGs. Today guys?

[Bet Twice]

I\'ve been watching the weather closely.....seems like one of those patterns that could go either way, right up to the day.  

Speaking of Friday, if anyone is thinking of going and doesn\'t have tickets, you can buy clubhouse seats for 7/per on stubhub (includes GA) vs paying $15 at the gate for admission only.