Tonalist runs without LASIX today

[Beau]

WHY??

[Beau]

So Clement posts the daily medication report for Tonalist on his twitter account early Saturday morning, that says the horse was not treated with any race day medication.

It was not reported by NYRA or DRF.

The horse won but the issue is WHY is he off Lasix and Why wasn\'t it reported that he was OFF LASIX.

It\'s disgusting how we the players/bettors are treated!

[miff]

Equibase chart says Tonalist had lasix. Was Clement referring to other permitted pre race day meds?

[Rick B.]

Beau Wrote:
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> The horse won but the issue is WHY is he off Lasix

WHY blinks on or off?

WHY one bar shoe?

WHY rider change?

WHY would we expect explanations for changes, when we
have rarely been given any information in the past?

In other words, WHY is this a big deal today?

[Beau]

Ohh its not a big deal if the horse is running without Lasix? Maybe to you its not but to me it is.

Why all of a sudden would the horse not need lasix? He doens\'t bleed anymore???

Yeah its a big deal!!!

[Beau]

@clementstable posted a picture of the NYS wagering commission vet report that states no treatment under the section that reads:

Treatment: Drug Administered, Dose, & route of Administration.

[Rick B.]

Beau Wrote:
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> Ohh its not a big deal if the horse is running
> without Lasix? Maybe to you its not but to me it
> is.
>
> Why all of a sudden would the horse not need
> lasix? He doens\'t bleed anymore???
>
> Yeah its a big deal!!!

I see why you are concerned.

The idea that you have to (or should be) a bleeder
to use Lasix is at least 10 years past its time.

Some trainers give ALL of their horses Lasix,
whether they need it or not.

It\'s worth noting that we are not told which
horses actually need Lasix...so it doesn\'t
seem strange to me that we aren\'t told when
they don\'t need Lasix.

[BitPlayer]

Beau -

My own guess is that Tonalist ran WITH Lasix and that you are misinterpreting what you read. I think Lasix is administered by a NYRA vet and not until 4-to-5 hours before race time.  As such it wouldn\'t have been included on a Saturday morning medication report.

[Beau]

Go to twitter (@clementstable) under pictures and look at the NYS gaming report\'s actual photo that clement posted.

It seems clear to me but who knows!

I don\'t know how to post a picture from twitter or I would.

[magicnight]

http://www.gaming.ny.gov/pdf/JC%20Gold%20Cup%209-26-14.pdf

Beau, as Bit noted, Lasix is administered by the nyra vet, and it is not listed on any of the medication sheets for the Gold Cup (see link above). Wicked Strong also did not get any treatment, other than the race day Lasix.

[Beau]

Thanks for clarification.

Although I just noticed the date on the report was the 26th not race day the 27th.

[rhagood]

Per Steve Haskin:
In addition to the victory, what made trainer Christophe Clement happy and proud was the fact that Tonalist was only one of two horses in the field, along with Wicked Strong, to have a clean medication list going into the race.

"I went on the New York State Racing and Wagering Board website to see what every trainer was treating their horses with leading up to the race," Clement said. "The good news is that you can still win a race with no medication. And this horse is proof of it. He had his Lasix shot today, and that was the only medication he had. I hope all my colleagues can see that."


Read more on BloodHorse.com: http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/horse-racing-steve-haskin/archive/2014/09/29/haskin-thoughts-on-a-super-saturday.aspx#ixzz3Elvcbiqf