Hettinger stakes question

Started by fasteddie, September 15, 2014, 05:59:51 PM

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fasteddie

Invading Humor won her 4th in a row yesterday; my question is, she seems to be one of these horses who \"grinds out\" a win, thus her numbers stay the same, and is always underestimated by everyone, including TG. Is this a case of her being a horse that is hard to quantify, numbers wise?

\'Humor, and her full-sister, Distorted Beauty, already go against the stats concerning their sire, Invasor, insofar as they are turf horses, and his sire stats say is is a poor turf sire.

Tavasco

Most of us have learned that statistics can sometimes be a great indicator and nearly as often can be misleading.

Invasor is the grandson of Blushing Groom(FR) which is certainly a turf positive. His dam side are all South Americans. The lack of turf racing in S.A. distorts any of those stats.

Regarding his progeny, I have not researched the details but I am of the opinion that (generally) early success on the dirt would reduce sample size of turf efforts and therefore distort statistical summaries. Additionally, poor dirt performers (those lacking so-called brilliance) could end up as career also ran turfers.

Then there is the dam side to consider. Bottom line... putting Invasor in the negative column of turf sires may be a rush to judgement. I regard him as a stamina influence and longer turf races may serve his progeny well.

TG has stated repeatedly that good turf horses run consistent tight patterns. So, I think the lack of figure variance speaks well of the two horses in question.