Wrongly: To each their own, my opinion is pedigree has a great deal to do with surface preference and stamina.

TGJB: Balto Star was one of the first Pletcher/Allday horses. I have been told Allday got nervous about helping the horse in the Derby, when he ran a stinker. No idea if that part is true and Allday ain\'t nervous no more.

richiebee: covelj70 Wrote:
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> ......
>
> I mean, I hate to interupt all of the riveting
> arguments about drugs, golf, and sports announcers
> but there is a little race coming up called the
> Kentucky Derby so I thought I would see if I could
> get us back on track (pun intended) here and pose
> a question for the board.

Mission 2/3rds accomplished! 24 hours, no golf, no sports announcers....
but DRUGS came back stronger than ever! All day long! Is it true
that HRTV and TVG are, as I write this, bidding to see who gets the
rights to stream the feed of the 24 hour surveillance camera in Vyjack\'s
stall? What good is a horse\'s stall that no one can take a leak in the corner
of?

A college chum of mine once commented that \"Reality is just a crutch for people
who can\'t handle DRUGS\". And because the powers that be have a wonderful sense of
humor, said chum is now one of Louisville\'s prominent...anesthesiologists.

arosenzweig: Not saying he is going to run well but Frac Daddy hated Gulfstream

toppled: My thoughts before the Arkansas Derby was if Frac Daddy runs big, it will confirm my thoughts that Orb & Itsmyluckyday are coming out of the classiest prep race.  At this point I like those 2 both to hit the board with Lines of Battle thrown in for the price to juice up the exotics & logical horses Java War & Verrazano in the mix. I believe that the Ark Derby lacked class and if you drop a horse low enough, he can look as good as Overanalyze did. If Jerry is anywhere near Beyer\'s number, when I put a line through the Remsen, OA is too slow to contend in the Derby.

covelj70: Toppled,

I am not saing you are wrong with any of your conclusions whatsoever but I can tell you the TGs for the Ark Derby were VERY different from the Beyers which should have been obvious (even I figured it out in an earlier post) based on the weights and ground loss for Overanalyze vs. Cyber Secret

justwin: I also believe that when a horse wins as easily as Overanalyze did he could have run faster with some competition to the wire so I would adjust his ark derby number even lower when I look at the ky derby. And the bigger plus was that with 3 weeks out he was not used up. not saying I like overanalyze just giving my opinion on how I look at a race with an easy winner.