This Gotham is pretty fascinating

[miff]

Vyjack mada a big run on dull surface,bum Rosario lost ground as usual.Preliminary Beyer 93 seems fair.

[ajkreider]

Pretty unusual to see three 1 1/16 mile races all within .02 seconds.  The start may have compromised some in the Gotham.  Hard to read, other than the winner.

Any thoughts on Gunderman\'s race at GP?  Seems to flatter Bradster and Verrazano at least.

[jimbo66]

Tread,

I will consider the tour. Thanks for the advice.

I also want to thank you for your continued participation in the betting pools.  

As for the comparison of the races, not sure I directly compared them, but I do believe both races were awful.  However, I would agree with you that many more, like you, will find excuses for the poor performance by the Chad Brown horse.  So be it.  That makes that race more personally valuable to me.  He will be overbet and a likely underlay wherever he shows up next, as opposed to Overanalyze, who lost some ground, but seemed  unprepared by Pletcher off the break, out of energy after a half mile.  Very unusual for a Pletcher horse early in the 3 year old season, they usually fire early.  Not sure what to make of it, other than that I won\'t be betting him either, any time soon.

Jim

[Lost Cause]

jimbo66 Wrote:
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> Tread,
>
, as opposed to
> Overanalyze, who lost some ground, but seemed
> unprepared by Pletcher off the break, out of
> energy after a half mile.  Very unusual for a
> Pletcher horse early in the 3 year old season,
> they usually fire early.  Not sure what to make of
> it, other than that I won\'t be betting him either,
> any time soon.
>
> Jim

FWIW Maggie did mention that Overanalyze has not really grown much from last year to this year in her paddock report..Could be the rest have just caught up or passed him..

[20kbrew]

If Rosario\'s a bum I can throw my hat in the ring for Pope.

[richiebee]

Have gone over this thread a few times and surprised nobody stated the obvious ...
that this is the type of runner, arguably fastest or not, that TG players should
lay in wait hoping to bet against, based on the weight carried and the potential
for a wide trip and the lack of value and the layoff etc.

Sounds like a redboard, but unfortunately while I did not include Overanalyze on
any multiple race wager, there was an absence of chaos which made for some slim
horizontal rewards. I hope someone out there did the right thing, tossed this
colt out of the verticals, and got paid.

Overanalyze\'s expected 4w3w trip could have been much worse if the second place
finisher had not run interference for the Pletcher colt, crowding most of the
field and causing NASCAR like chain reactions into the first turn.

Gotham gossip: Transparent (6th, beaten about 5 lengths) had an eventful journey.
Even after being \"bumped\", placed in \"tight quarters\" and being \"bumped again\", he
somehow emerged as the \"primary pursuer\", then \"backing away\" in mid stretch.
Would like to see this expensive colt with a clean trip and if and when Lasix is added.

Escape From Reality (9th, beaten about 10 lengths) another eventful journey \"in
tight quarters\", \"turned sideways\", \"clipped from behind after being bumped in the
hindquarters\', this one never looked comfortable and could turn into a nice NYB if
kept off the Derby trail.

Vyjack: I am not a pace expert, but it seems like this one sat well back and wide
of a moderate pace and was the only participant really running at the end of this
heat. If you like this gelding, you have to hope that RudyRod is canny enough to
have him less than fully cranked for the Wood. (If Vyjack was a colt, winning the
Wood would (sorry) be more imperative). Speaking of RRod, I was surprised to see
that his strike rate in graded stakes is a fancy 34%, albeit from a small sample.

With regards to El Jefe\'s comment about \"tough testing in KY\", which I
think was offered in response to a mention of Vyjack\'s vyability at the Big Dance,
let us all remind ourselves that the winners of 3 of the last 5 Derbies were
runners trained by a) a banned multiple offender (2008); b) everyone\'s usual
suspect (not mine) (2010); and another multiple offender (2012).

Wanted to compliment Comma to the Top on his gameness in the Tom Fool, but in
retrospect he was not beating a Grade III quality field. Still quite an effort
considering he had run the previous Saturday and shipped cross country. And
speaking of the quality of the stakes fields, must note that 3 or 4 of the 7
starters in the Gr II Top Flight had recently run in claiming races.