Shakleford

Started by jbelfior, May 21, 2011, 03:32:33 PM

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TGJB

MJ-- explain something to me. How come Nehro likes to beat all the other horses, just not one of them?

Another way of looking at it would be that he ran tops in his last 3, couldn\'t run any faster than he did in his last.
TGJB

mjellish

Yep.  That\'s another way to look at him.

I\'ve just found that some horses don\'t seem to like to get to the front of a field.  They can pass everyone but the leader in a quality field.  Sometimes it looks like they are going to go right on by, but they don\'t.  Or if they get their head in front they let the other horse come back on them.  I\'ve seen many horses like this, sure you have to.  Nehro strikes me as this type.  But I could be wrong.  He\'s still young.  He did win his maiden by open lengths.  Who knows.

Would be ironic though, and probably fitting of the sequence this year, if I keyed him in second and he wins to beat me.

moosepalm

TGJB Wrote:
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> MJ-- explain something to me. How come Nehro likes
> to beat all the other horses, just not one of
> them?

Was Pezua in the reins?

alm

Respect you greatly...I made the same mistake in the Preakness...so???

Don\'t make a mistake with Nehro...he may finish second or worse at Belmont because others beat him, but this horse passed Arch right after the wire in Oaklawn.  Do you think he was thinking \'let me hold back until I am 2 feet past the wire?\'  At the speed he was traveling, I don\'t think he had a clue where he was and I also bet he thought he won.

I listened to a lot of intelligent guys prior to Preakness and changed my belief and statement that Sway Away was a POS.  The horse proved me right in the first place, but guess who I left off my bets as a result?

jbelfior

Why the assumption that Nehro can win at a Classic distance with this level?

I\'ll send a limo to pick him up to run 1 1/2.


Good Luck,
Joe B.

alm

jbelfior Wrote:
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> Why the assumption that Nehro can win at a Classic
> distance with this level?
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> I\'ll send a limo to pick him up to run 1 1/2.
>
>
> Good Luck,
> Joe B.


Whoa Partner...that wasn\'t the point I was making...never said he would or could win at Belmont, only that if you dismissed him for having \'seconditis\' you would be making a mistake.  If you dismiss him for having distance limitations as you suggest you could be right.  You could make a case for ALL of these 3yos being questionable at the distance because none of them have tried it yet.

I don\'t believe this horse wants to run with the pack...his Oaklawn race suggests otherwise, unless you think they are all machines.  He didn\'t know where the finish line was when he passed Arch...but he was hellbent to pass him and did.  Arch was saved by the wire, which he also didn\'t see.

I do think the Belmont will be won by a new shooter...Nehro fits that category, the slow plug from England fits that category and Alternation fits that category.  One of them should plop over Shack and AK if they both show up.

mikemca

What about Brilliant Speed? His sheet looks the best to me and anyone who watched the overhead of the derby doesn\'t need an explanation as to why there is a ! next to his fig. Regardless of the bias he still ran a football field more than anyone else that was still running at the end.

RICH

Not sure about running longer than anyone else, several horses went further than Brillant speed, including AK,nehro, soldat, MI, Watchme go, at least according to trakus

drbillym

Mikemca:  You might have sniffed out the sleeper.  Brilliant Speed has brilliant breeding for this race as his second dam is half sister to Touch gold, winner of the Belmont.  Albertrani, Live Oak and Rosario all good connections.  Don\'t let his name fool you, he is bred to go long.

mikemca

I was only comparing Brilliant Speed to AK,Nehro,MOH and MMM but yeah I may have exaggerated a bit due to Brilliant Speed being moved up to the outside of AK towards the end of the 1st turn and then coming widest off the 2nd turn.I guess the ground he saved going into the 1st turn made all the difference per Trakus.

mikemca

I hope so because I don\'t think he will get much attention at the windows.

reboundman

I had most everything keyed to Brilliant Speed in the Derby. If he had managed to finish in the money, I\'d be eating steak right now instead of cat food.

drbillym

Very important workout for Shak Saturday at Belmont.  Critical that he handle the Big Sandy, as it could be similar to the deep track he faced in the Derby.  If he can handle the surface, he is surely the lone speed-who\'s gonna go with him?  I think he can go the distance.  MJ, wear your cup! :)