Commonwealth Turf Stakes

[drbillym]

Hopefully, post position 13 will help the odds on Beau Choix, who ran a big race in the Jamaica.  Finished full of run but too wide and could not catch Prince Will I Am.  Prince raced great in the BC Marathon but was dq\'d due to Javier\'s famous blunder.  No one here today can finish as fast as Beau Choix and Julien is the perfect fit to close.  The 11 insures a fast pace and I am betting that he will not be in the exacta.  Using the 9 and 7 for second.

[Marlin]

Why have they made the 8 the favorite?

[kensharkey]

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[P-Dub]

kensharkey Wrote:
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> another pea-brain ride by a pea-brain jockey. doea
> the retard think he needs to go 5 wide all the
> way?

You\'re referring to the #13??

[kensharkey]

yes, there is a move caleed TAKE BACK

[drbillym]

I think I\'m the pea brain on this pick.

[P-Dub]

kensharkey Wrote:
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> another pea-brain ride by a pea-brain jockey. doea
> the retard think he needs to go 5 wide all the
> way?

You guys are something else.

The horse is breaking from the 13, he is near the back of the pack going into the first turn. Just how, with all of those horses to his inside, is he supposed to save any ground??

At no point in the race did he have the chance to save any ground.

Nothing wrong with the ride.

Maybe it was a pea-brained bet, made by a pea-brained bettor, who is a retard thinking he had a horse that was going to save ground from the 13 hole.

That guy is an accomplished rider, another poor wager blamed on the jockey. How surprising.

[SoCalMan2]

Minus the vitriol, I agree with P-Dub on this one.  

The horse was in the 13 hole.  Horses are not like cars....you cant just start and stop them...sometimes they just run they way they want to run.  Also, some horses have a tendency to run wide and you need to factor that in -- this horse was 3w3w in his previous two races from inside post positions -- you had to imagine he might be running wide.  It is not necessarily doable to take back, and, sometimes, if you fight the horse, you end up even worse.  In my experience, Leparoux is fairly sensitive to saving ground and would have done so if he could have.  He was riding a 7-2 shot in a graded stakes race, you have to think it was an important part of Leparoux\'s day.

Nobody likes to lose and it especially hurts when the horse ends up running a good figure but squanders it on an outside trip, but sometimes those outside trips are not avoidable and it is one of the things you need to factor in when you consider the variability/volatility in results.

 P-Dub Wrote:
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> kensharkey Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > another pea-brain ride by a pea-brain jockey.
> doea
> > the retard think he needs to go 5 wide all the
> > way?
>
> You guys are something else.
>
> The horse is breaking from the 13, he is near the
> back of the pack going into the first turn. Just
> how, with all of those horses to his inside, is he
> supposed to save any ground??
>
> At no point in the race did he have the chance to
> save any ground.
>
> Nothing wrong with the ride.
>
> Maybe it was a pea-brained bet, made by a
> pea-brained bettor, who is a retard thinking he
> had a horse that was going to save ground from the
> 13 hole.
>
> That guy is an accomplished rider, another poor
> wager blamed on the jockey. How surprising.

[P-Dub]

SoCal,

It was a play on words based on how he characterized the jockey. Totally unwarranted, so I used the same words he used on him.

Maybe next time he won\'t be so quick to criticize a jockey with those kinds of words.  It goes both ways.

Excellent point about Leparoux, he is one of the better jockeys out there, scored with him at a nice price in BC 2009 when he came inside with Furthest Land. Guy can ride, OP was out of line.

[kensharkey]

hi