what do you think shireffs is thinking now?

[smalltimer]

If you recall Zenyatta loping dead last during the first quarter in the BC Classic, she galloped that opening quarter in 27.1, the same pace as Rachel came home in the other day.  
If she bounced, she should deserve a shot to redeem herself in the Classic at 10 furlongs.
If QR makes the starting gate it will make for an interesting battle in the stretch once the closers start to move.
I hope Rachel\'s camp enters her with the Classic bunch.

[Rick B.]

Rich Curtis Wrote:
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> Re-writing your first post in this string so that
> Zenyatta had to benefit from only one fast pace in
> her career for you to be right? Good idea, Rick.
> Indeed, anything that gets you away from your
> first post in this string is a good idea.

I stand by my first post in this string.

Your objectivity in matters regarding Zenyatta and / or counterfeit surfaces is noted.

[Rich Curtis]

Rick B wrote:

 \"I stand by my first post in this string.\"

  Oh. Well, then, let me take this opportunity to stand by mine.

  \"Your objectivity in matters regarding Zenyatta and / or counterfeit surfaces is noted.\"

 Gee, thanks, Your objectivity in these matters was first noted by me during your exchange with Bruno De Julio on his website, though I think you overrate our (CA) air quality a bit.

[Rick B.]

Rich Curtis Wrote:
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> Gee, thanks, Your objectivity in these matters
> was first noted by me during your exchange with
> Bruno De Julio on his website.

Ah, finally, the ax is revealed.
 
You mean Bruno \"Big Price\" De Julio? Friend of yours?

Love that guy. Huge genius -- after the fact. How is his stable doing lately, and when will he be changing trainers (again)?

[Rich Curtis]

Rick B wrote:

 \"Ah, finally, the ax is revealed.
You mean Bruno \'Big Price\' De Julio? Friend of yours?\"

 With apologies to Andre Gide: Please do not understand me too quickly, Rick. No, Bruno is not my friend. I don\'t even use his workout reports anymore. Hell of a Thoro-Graph employee, though. Very sharp eye.

\"How is his stable doing lately\"

  You might want to ask NYC1347 about that. I believe Bruno owns one of NYC\'s recent winners.

[miff]

\"Very sharp eye\"


...now there\'s one for the dust bin!

[Rich Curtis]

Miff wrote:

\"...now there\'s one for the dust bin!\"

 Is that a \"fact\"?

[miff]

Rich,

Good one. Re Rufffian, another fig maker, Andy Beyer believed that Ruffian ran faster as a 2 yr old than Secretariat.


Mike

[Rich Curtis]

Miff,

 Yes, I don\'t believe Ruffian developed much. Here, by the way, is Friedman writing in August of last year about Zenyatta and Rachel:

\"The most unusual aspect of the comparison between RA and ZEN is that they both have shown the ability to run top efforts on both dirt and poly.   I think that there is some justice in your approach of comparing dirt horses to dirt horses and poly and grass horses similarly, but in this case it\'s not really necessary.   Some of Zen\'s numbers may be slower because of slow paces (even after we make our correction) but her top effort is a point faster than RA\'s best and Zen has many efforts within a point or two of RA\'s top.   RA\'s efforts are as a 3yo as against Zen\'s top form at 4yo, but there are no guarantees that RA will be able to run faster numbers in the future even if she is campaigned as a 4yo (we can only hope that will be the case).   They are head and shoulders the best of any mares in modern times and to me it would be hard to pick the likely winner if they were to match up on dirt or poly.\"