Rachel Alexandra Wins Preakness

Started by SonicDonn, May 16, 2009, 03:25:33 PM

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richiebee

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> I had that Pick Four pretty good but sure would
> have like to have seen what it would have paid
> with Silver Edition and a clean trip Wesley.


Silver:

Wesley was the key to my whole day.

But let me get this straight: Are you implying that a horse who almost lost
contact with the field on the backstretch, and then rallied from somewhere
near where Jesus left his sandals, had a bad trip?

Can\'t take anything away from Parading; wonder if the Phippses will try to get
him a dirt track graded stakes win to put him in the same class, versatility-
wise, as the brilliant! Einstein?

Silver Charm

Bitchiebee on Wesley a resounding YES!!!

After thinking maybe inside or middle the jock clearly committed to go outside.

One problem the runnerup who lost by maybe a head was already there and would not let him out. Wesley started climbing with nowhere to run and eventually had to let him go and veer behind and outside him.

This cost him precious time and momentum. Sseing this and the runnerup losing by neck/head makes me think Wesley might have gotten there.

I used Parading defensively because the spacing the last three and a big top in the middle had me a little worried.

Parading need to heading west for the Gold Cup and the Pacific

spa

P-Dub, I\'m one of the 118 who bought the analysis and Musket Man was my key horse in the big race. I had a grand day. Yet,before the race was over I saw the filly lose her action........years ago,I watched Ruffian go down. RA\'s people can say how well she came back,but we\'ll see.
p.s. if Calvin rides the colt,he beats the filly.............

P-Dub

spa Wrote:
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> P-Dub, I\'m one of the 118 who bought the analysis
> and Musket Man was my key horse in the big race. I
> had a grand day. Yet,before the race was over I
> saw the filly lose her action........years ago,I
> watched Ruffian go down. RA\'s people can say how
> well she came back,but we\'ll see.
> p.s. if Calvin rides the colt,he beats the
> filly.............


No he doesn\'t.

I\'ll say this once and promise, almost, to leave it alone.

Tell me at which point in the race Borel saves ground and wins the race??

Borel ran a great Derby, but apparently that means that in every race for the rest of his life the seas magically part and he gets to skim the rail.

There was no room on the rail, or the 2-3 paths next to it.

I swear, all of you are in the wrong profession.  I have never seen a greater collection of race riders than I see on this board after every major race. Its a wonder any of these bums can get a mount, what with all the poor rides they continually give.

When you guys suit up, get on a horse, leave the gate along with other 1200 pd animals, and race between horses going 40mph...maybe then you can tell a jockey what he should\'ve/could\'ve done.
P-Dub

TGJB

Doubt Borel could have found the rail second turn,but regardless, Smith\'s ride was a little better than what could have been predicted for that horse, with any rider. Probably decided he wasn\'t going to take the overland route after Borel\'s Derby ride, with the whole world watching.
TGJB

PapaChach

ever since i witnessed, from fairly close up, the sight of mike smith getting pitched into the air (looked like he\'d been shot out of a cannon) and then into the saratoga turf rail, i have been somewhat reluctant to go too overboard with the jockey criticism...

but i just don\'t get the ride wesley got yesterday...he showed vastly improved early speed going a mile last out with the blinkers added, and the pace in the dixie figured moderate at best...thought he\'d be right up there, which was one of the reasons i liked him a lot...yet somehow he walks out of the gate, hangs dfl for awhile, loafs a dozen or so off a one-twelve and change six furlongs...the blinkers only did the trick for one race?!?! even if he gets 2nd...

Leamas57

Thank you for finally saying it (or at least the first I\'ve seen)!  I have to believe that Calvin would have saved 2-3 lengths on a horse he knew.

The real unbeatable underdog Triple Crown story would have been MTB heading for the Belmont Stakes with a better chance than RA.

richiebee

richiebee Wrote:
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> Silver Charm Wrote:
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> > I had that Pick Four pretty good but sure would
> > have like to have seen what it would have paid
> > with Silver Edition and a clean trip Wesley.
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> Silver:
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> Wesley was the key to my whole day.
>
> But let me get this straight: Are you implying
> that a horse who almost lost
> contact with the field on the backstretch, and
> then rallied from somewhere
> near where Jesus left his sandals, had a bad
> trip?

Wesley returns in the 2010 rendition of the Dixie and I do not think he can
possibly have as bad a trip as he had in 2009. TG\'s comment was \"swung 6 wide\",
but my memory is that Wesley was much closer to the grandstand than the hedge
when they came off the turn

Not as fast as a couple of others in this race TG wise, but his company lines
show some of the better turf runners in the US -- Court Vision, Justenuffhumor,
Presious Passion and Gio Ponti.

Hoping the inside post and crafty turf rider Castellano equal a clean trip here,
looking for odds above 8/1, maybe my strongest play in a tricky P4 which ends
with the Preakness.

TreadHead

I am interested to see how Nicanor runs in this race.  They tried to restrain him in his last race and he absolutely hated it and of course threw a bad effort.  But the race shapes show him getting a very easy lead, even from the extreme outside, if he is allowed to take it.  If he moves forward off of his 3, I just don\'t see a horse like Wesley getting a clean enough trip after dropping back on the rail to be able to catch him if he is loose on the lead.

Another interesting horse if the 5 who also needs to move forward from a 3, but is really the only other horse in this race with any speed at all, cept maybe the 11 who is a pig.  If they are allowed to control the pace, I think either the 5 or 13 could be a nice surprise here, although I\'m sure Nicanor will be overbet due to the Barbaro connection.