Zenyatta Coming Back

Started by Silver Charm, January 17, 2010, 06:14:24 AM

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Silver Charm

The below is already out there on Facebook. A race 90 minutes before Derby makes complete sense. Oaks Day puts it on the Food Channel or wherever the Oaks was last year.

C\'mon PDub its okay if was the BC Day but not if its Derby Day. You are sharper than that.........  

\"Greatest Race in History\"

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Description:Rachel Alexandra vs. Zenyatta in the 2010 Pimlico Special on Friday, May 14, 2010??? The Maryland Jockey Club will be honored if this \"once in a lifetime\" race takes place at historic Pimlico!

P-Dub

It would be the marquee matchup on a BC Day.

As big as this race would be, the Kentucky Derby is the biggest race in America. That is just a fact.

Why would you put these 2 on the UNDERCARD of the Kentucky Derby? As soon as the race is over, people will focus on the Derby.

This race is a stand alone feature at any racetrack in the country, and should be treated that way.

Led Zeppelin doesn\'t open for anybody, neither should these 2.
P-Dub

Leamas57

If they ran 9 furlongs at Pimlico on a fast track, I personally would handicap Rachel as 1-2. This though I doubt that she would ever be less than even and maybe not even the favorite.

Leamas

fasteddie

The Apple Blossom at OP would be perfect; forget an \"undercard\" at CD or Pim. From a timing standpoint, Mth in june would be ideal; fair track, not a short stretch like Oaklawn, gives the connections plenty of time to get them ready, but of greatest importance....A RACETRACK THAT I CAN PLACE A WAGER ON!!!! Currently shutout at OP, FG, HOL, SA, CD, GP, LRL, PIM, and counting...

Lost Cause

If I were Zenyatta\'s crew the only dirt tracks I would consider for a race with Rachel would be Belmont or CD.  Those tracks do not favor speed like OP, Pim,or MTH.

Silver Charm

Considering they just lost HOY in a vote that was not as close as some had thought (130-99) maybe they wish they had taken one of those shots lst year.

CD on Derby Day makes the most sense. NBC TV already present, 100,000 plus fans in the stands, BC at CD this year, a betting handle for the day that could be the biggest in sports history, celebrities all over town, and a good chance to fill out the rest of the field so its not just a match race.

We do not need some sort of contrived garbage race like the Exxon-Mobil Microsoft Match Race.

BTW Moss appears to be throwing down the guantlet a bit on TVG saying where Rachel goes we will be in the gate next to her.

nyc1347

These two horses should be running most of their races in the east to prep for BC Day.   Dont see anything wrong at all with both racing a regular prep race 20 debut race soon and then running against each other several times out east.   Run them both Kentucky Derby Day, maybe the Islen after then the woodward.. then off to CD for Breeders Cup.  The timing is spread out nice and maybe u can throw in some other stakes race in between seperately to fill in any gap. 3 meetings could be ideal to see who the better horse is or if any other horse would be good enough to step up and compete.   Either that, or we will be seeing a lot of $4.20 exactas and $11.30 tris.

Flighted Iron


Cartman

I think this whole debate is way off base.

I\'d make Miesque 2/5 against Ruffian at one mile on the turf, but make Ruffian 2/5 to beat Miesque at one mile on dirt. I don\'t think that diminishes the greatness of either.

IMO, the only way you can say one horse is greater than another is if one crosses over and beats the other at its own game. Otherwise, I think relative comparisons are more appropriate.

Rachel should be compared to Ruffian, Go for Wand, Bayakoa, Personal Ensign etc...

Zenyatta should be compared to Ouija Board, Miesque, Goldikova, Dahlia etc... because turf form translates so well.

We already know that RA\'s connections will not attempt to beat Zenyatta at her own game. They balked at the challenge. Zenyatta will probably resume her initial foray into dirt racing this year. So IMO Zenyatta is actually in the \"can\'t lose\" position. If she gets outrun, she\'ll be remembered as one of the greatest turf/synthetic mares in the history of America. If she beats RA at her own game, she\'ll be remembered as the greatest mare in history. It\'s RA that would be diminished by the loss.

P-Dub

Lets jump ahead to BC day 2010..

What race will Rachel run in....Ladies Classic or Classic?
P-Dub

nyc1347

With the figures she is running it would have to be the Classic... i mean does a bear ***t in the woods?   I wouldnt even be surprised if a horse like Biofuel was in there too.  The female horses are running faster than the males lately.  Its... weeeeird