Rachel vs Zenyatta-Did we learn anything today?

TGJB · June 30, 2009, 02:46:43 PM

P-Dub-- or win the BC Classic. If she does that and RA runs the table, somebody could sell the TV rights to the Clark for an awful lot of money, and make the purse who knows what.

P-Dub · June 30, 2009, 03:00:50 PM

I forgot about the Clark at CD.

Good point JB. Looks like thats what we\'ll all have to hope happens.

Like others have mentioned, I\'ll ease out of this conversation too.

Looking forward to this weekend. Going to get my fair fix on this Saturday at Pleasanton. Should be a balmy 95 degrees. I\'m sweating thinking about it.

BB · June 30, 2009, 03:08:01 PM

I\'ll just add that the \"BC as Championship\" day is a seriously BS excuse. How many times have divisional champions (Easy Goer as a 2YO, for one) - or even HOTY (Curlin) - lost in the BC? I don\'t know the exact number but I\'d bet it approaches double-digits. You win for the sum of the year, not just the BC result.

P-Dub · July 01, 2009, 01:21:38 AM

BB Wrote:
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> I\'ll just add that the \"BC as Championship\" day is
> a seriously BS excuse. How many times have
> divisional champions (Easy Goer as a 2YO, for one)
> - or even HOTY (Curlin) - lost in the BC? I don\'t
> know the exact number but I\'d bet it approaches
> double-digits. You win for the sum of the year,
> not just the BC result.

Many horses have been voted champion of a division based on what they did on BC day. Its not the be all end all, but it carries a lot of weight.

As for horses losing on BC day that have won championships approaching double digits. Lets see..

Its been running for 25 years. 7-8 races a year. Thats almost 200 races. Double digits is 10 so that makes it 5%.

Not very many.

BB · July 01, 2009, 11:29:12 AM

Paul, the point I was trying to make is that ... whatever the number is, 5% or whatever ... that many of that other 95% earned their championships over the course of the year and would have won their divisions even if they lost in the BC. Yes, they won in the BC because they were the best horse. But many of that 95% already proved they were the best in their division, and would have won even if they lost in the BC (or didn\'t show up, for whatever reason). So, the point was meant to extend beyond that 5%. Sorry if that was unclear.

P-Dub · July 01, 2009, 12:57:28 PM

Sorry BB, didn\'t get it. Now I do. And that part is true.

But there have been many that pop up and win on BC day and are awarded a championship.

Flighted Iron · July 01, 2009, 04:02:10 PM

do you mean several or many?

marcus · July 01, 2009, 05:57:58 PM

Too bad imo if R A won\'t run in California - Sire profile is 0 for 50 wins in turf Stakes w / %14 Stks winners on synth . Personally , the way I\'m seeing it , this fillie very well could be the one to pad the percentages on synthetic tracks and break through on the turf course - anyone want to lay odds ? . . .